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Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 10 h 47
Sujet:
Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>If it's a sign and trade then you're giving up more then that. Likely add a Zellweger or another A level prospect</div></div>
We're not even giving up that, Toronto has zero leverage and Gibson isn't going to Toronto.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 10 h 46
Sujet:
Obvious Fit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NARC311</b></div><div>https://www.nhl.com/news/flyers-gauthier-working-on-improving-at-center-335019384</div></div>
Eh, that's a pretty out of date article. His ability to play center will no doubt come in handy to fill in as needed for injuries, but I think he's going to be a winger long term in Anaheim.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 2 h 34
Sujet:
Core 4 Blow-Up
Verbeek wants to build a team capable of going deep into the playoffs, explain to me how Marner helps that happen while occupying 12+ million against the cap that could have been spent on players who can or have gotten it done before, to say nothing of Bankrolling TORs cap circumvention for years, and the number of trade clauses that need to be waived for this to happen.
First convince me Marner is the missing piece.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 2 h 9
Sujet:
PLAYOFF TEAM
Give it up Habs fans, you're not acquiring Zegras without giving up a piece you desperately don't want to relinquish.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 2 h 8
Sujet:
Possibly
So you took the **** proposal for Zegras from that philly hockey writer, which was never going to fly in the first place, then decided the value difference between pick 32 and Helleson meant upgrading to McTavish?
Aside from McTavish being a completely unavailable piece, understand that teams who are still rebuilding do not trade the future for the now, and in no way does a year of TK, a pick that may as well be a 2nd, and a cap dump grab you a 3OA player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 1 h 51
Sujet:
Quack
If that's the best offer Philly gets, maybe. But they're somewhat ahead of us on the whole competing timeline. They only retooled instead of rebuilt, so some young high end talent is missing, but I don't think they want to wait three drafts for the main pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 0 h 53
Sujet:
Marner Gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Well he definitely would never get one if he went to the ducks. LOL</div></div>
Remind me when the most recent cups were for the Ducks and the Leafs are. Go look that up. I'm going to guess only one team has won a cup in your lifetime.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 23 h 17
Sujet:
Obvious Fit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NARC311</b></div><div>He said he wants to play C</div></div>
Where did he say that? I'd assume we would have announced him as such if it were the case when we traded for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 23 h 16
Sujet:
Marner Gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Idk why people think Marner will waive to a bottom feeder? They must think he doesn't want a ring in his career.</div></div>
Yeah, cause he's going to get one in Toronto.......
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 23 h 15
Sujet:
mitch the bish
McTavish is untouchable, and Toronto doesn't have the leverage to even propose that high of a return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 21 h 40
Sujet:
Who needs Defence and Goaltending hahah
Because you can't afford Zegras
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 21 h 24
Sujet:
Solid Down the Middle
Anaheim not bankrolling the Pens.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 55
Sujet:
DeMelo and Levshunov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I mean it's not really a value thing that i'm looking for. And to be honest yes he's playing in Anaheim's top 4 in a bad situation. But he also had a relatively bad season stat wise. I'm fine with overlooking it based upon the team not being very good on the backend as a whole and being pretty young. But that's the main reason I don't really know where to value him.
If it was a 2nd instead of a defenseman in that trade, the Blues have no reason to make the trade. But if he's a guy who has a realistic toolkit in a bad situation that could fit in nicely to our group for the forseeable future, sure I would do that. I'm just ignorant on the player's outlook, and frankly it's hard to really just look at a prospect report and believe given how many highly touted guys don't stick and have glowing reviews.
My main point is I could see reasoning for this IF the Blues front office believes he can be a solid piece in the top 4 for the Blues, and IF the top end defenseman in the class are all gone by #16 (assuming no lottery won).</div></div>
Having watched a lot of his play this season, he's been making good reads, he's been developing his defensive awareness, and he's been making a lot of good plays. A lot of his bad stat block comes from a long stretch having to be Fowlers partner so he was playing against the top competition.
I think he's going to be an incredibly solid 3/4 all around guy going forward, id personally see him kept on the roster and move Zelleweger to the wing, but I don't know that that's reality.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 50
Sujet:
Keeping Pace With Laine Rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>K_DaBoss</b></div><div>Zegras will be gone this offseason - you'll like center depth.</div></div>
What does this have to do about Zegras or Anaheims center depth? You're trading for Gibson.
As to Zegras, he'll be on the opening night roster for the Ducks, and we have other, better centers already on the roster than Poulin, and arguably better ones in our system too.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
lun. à 18 h 7
Sujet:
Big off season s-wings Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lottsie10</b></div><div>Yes I am aware this might be on the low end, just wanted to throw a starting point out there :)</div></div>
There's nothing compelling about a first that late, a cast off, and Gibson to convince us to trade Zegras.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 18 h 5
Sujet:
DeMelo and Levshunov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>You could’ve assumed Killorn or Gudas would’ve wanted the same. Pretty hard to say that with any confidence unless the player has said so themselves.
While ANA won’t be contending for playoffs next year, their young talent pool looks pretty promising for the last 3 years the suggested 5 year deal for him here</div></div>
DeMelonhas also never had a payday before, but I don't know that he's going to be able to hang as 1RD, he's up there in age and this site has him ranked as 3RD. Gudas has turned out great but I don't think bringing in most teams 3RDs and hoping they are top 4 is a viable strategy.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I truly don’t know how to value LaCombe. I understand the thought process behind it and think it could be beneficial for the Blues. But it would hinge on belief that LaCombe is capable of moving into a top 4 role long term and being an asset there.
It would also have to be at the pick because if one of the top end defenseman are still available that would probably make more sense.</div></div>
This puts his value at a 2nd, and he's playing top 4 with us already, usually on his off hand no less.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 41
Sujet:
Top 6 upgrade options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>PPG this season, not over his career. Play driving is not points, but "advanced" analytics like shot share, expected goal share, WAR metrics, etc. I like Zegras a lot and think he can still be a real superstar in this league, but he's a massive risk. Has only taken steps back since his breakout season 2 years ago and has yet to prove he's anything beyond a "someone has to score the points" guy on a very bad team.
Could he rebound and have a MacKinnon type career arc? Still possible. Could he also be a Will Butcher/Ty Smith/Brad Boyes start hot but never recover type? Also within the realm of possibility. I think the most likely career arc for him though is a Brock Boeser/Tyler Johnson type career. Start off strong but just sort of maintain that level and never really take a big step. Don't get me wrong that's still a great player, but not the kind you give up your top prospect who just had a historically good season in the NCAA for. He's worth the risk for the Caps specifically as a team IF the price isn't ridiculous.</div></div>
Even Elias Peterson and Nathan MacKinnon didn't improve their rookie stats the second year. MacKinnon took 5 seasons to reach his rookie numbers again.
The fact that Zegras improved (minority) his sophomore season despite the team around him being significantly worse was huge, and as a playmaker, he's elevating the players he's on a line with (the first two seasons of which he was often saddled with subpar talent like Nick Deslauriers and your own Sonny Milano)
This season was a 12 game skid then two injuries followed by an 11 game showing where he looked better than his old self, we have zero reason to suspect he's not going to take significant strides next season on the counting stats.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 34
Sujet:
Marner Staying
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>He's not.
And Zegras is not good.</div></div>
And your evidence for this is what, a 12 game skid where he only put up 2 points while trying to fight through Osteitis Pubis?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Off Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>If I had a worst enemy, I'd make him hold his breath until that Mo Seider trade happened.</div></div>
I mean, he wants a second for Kupari too, so I think he might be looking through blue tinted glasses.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 26
Sujet:
The End of the core 4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>That’s well put. I don’t personally think the money should be spent on a 4C with term right now though. We aren’t going to be pushing for the cup to make it worthwhile, so I’d personally rather see the spot be filled either more affordable or more strategically (like giving Gaucher a look). But see your point at least. If it had 1 less year on it that’d be more palatable as well</div></div>
I think if his contract became a cap issue for us before it's over then Verbeek went nuts with spending. Even for McTavish and Leo I think they get 2-3 year bridge deals because that's just the way Verbeek operates.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 17
Sujet:
Top 6 upgrade options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>no doubt. I just see a lot of people suggesting what they think is fair but if im the Capitals im using the most recent Debrincat trade BUT if im the Ducks im asking for Leonard. Capitals are the team in a rush to get good</div></div>
The most recent DeBrincat trade is due to DeBrincat refusing to sign long term in Ottawa and with him about to turn UFA, he provided a SHORT list of teams he'd be willing to sign for term with, severely limiting any bidding war, this driving the value down.
Zegras is under contract for two more seasons and then has RFA rights after that, the first DeBrincat trade would be the comp, not the most recent one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 13
Sujet:
The End of the core 4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Can I ask why? He’s 100% not a 3C, and $2.9M over 3 years for a 4C just seems silly. We can afford him, but I don’t think we should. Especially that third and final year hitting when every ELC we have will be on a contract</div></div>
His cap hit is 2.4 and he's got significantly better defensive analytics than Lundestrom. He's tough to play against as well. There's a reason he got that contract to get a bottom 6 role. Yeah, probably overly rich contract, but not by that much. He's a viable bottom 6 upgrade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 14 h 32
Sujet:
The End of the core 4
I'm sure several other Anaheim fans will come on here not wanting Kampf, but I'm interested in him. Yeah, Toronto can't afford his services, but the Ducks can.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
lun. à 14 h 21
Sujet:
See ya marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>Why on earth do Anaheim want Marner? This team isn't going to buy on players until it shows it can make the playoffs...</div></div>
And when we do, why would we acquire a player who's shown he can't perform in the playoffs?
I think Marner is a great player, but Marner can't run his own line, he needs room to operate so you have to stick him with someone dangerous enough to draw the defenders away from Marner.
He's elite, but he's an elite complimentary piece.
With regards to the above, there's way too many NTC/NMC conditions to consider feasible.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
lun. à 14 h 13
Sujet:
2nd line dream
Yes, a dream to think we'd trade Zegras for a bag of scraps.
That retention bring Anderson to a neutral asset, not a positive one, we don't have room nor want of Harris, and two seconds, really? You think that's enough? We'd give you Ryan Strome and Isaac Lundestrom for that deal.
There have been some.bad offers for him on this site over the last year but even they have the good graces to offer the Winnipeg or Calgary firsts, this is just insultingly low.
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