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Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 19 h 55
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I mean it's not really a value thing that i'm looking for. And to be honest yes he's playing in Anaheim's top 4 in a bad situation. But he also had a relatively bad season stat wise. I'm fine with overlooking it based upon the team not being very good on the backend as a whole and being pretty young. But that's the main reason I don't really know where to value him.

If it was a 2nd instead of a defenseman in that trade, the Blues have no reason to make the trade. But if he's a guy who has a realistic toolkit in a bad situation that could fit in nicely to our group for the forseeable future, sure I would do that. I'm just ignorant on the player's outlook, and frankly it's hard to really just look at a prospect report and believe given how many highly touted guys don't stick and have glowing reviews.

My main point is I could see reasoning for this IF the Blues front office believes he can be a solid piece in the top 4 for the Blues, and IF the top end defenseman in the class are all gone by #16 (assuming no lottery won).</div></div>

Having watched a lot of his play this season, he's been making good reads, he's been developing his defensive awareness, and he's been making a lot of good plays. A lot of his bad stat block comes from a long stretch having to be Fowlers partner so he was playing against the top competition.

I think he's going to be an incredibly solid 3/4 all around guy going forward, id personally see him kept on the roster and move Zelleweger to the wing, but I don't know that that's reality.
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 18 h 5
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 16 h 41
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>PPG this season, not over his career. Play driving is not points, but "advanced" analytics like shot share, expected goal share, WAR metrics, etc. I like Zegras a lot and think he can still be a real superstar in this league, but he's a massive risk. Has only taken steps back since his breakout season 2 years ago and has yet to prove he's anything beyond a "someone has to score the points" guy on a very bad team.

Could he rebound and have a MacKinnon type career arc? Still possible. Could he also be a Will Butcher/Ty Smith/Brad Boyes start hot but never recover type? Also within the realm of possibility. I think the most likely career arc for him though is a Brock Boeser/Tyler Johnson type career. Start off strong but just sort of maintain that level and never really take a big step. Don't get me wrong that's still a great player, but not the kind you give up your top prospect who just had a historically good season in the NCAA for. He's worth the risk for the Caps specifically as a team IF the price isn't ridiculous.</div></div>

Even Elias Peterson and Nathan MacKinnon didn't improve their rookie stats the second year. MacKinnon took 5 seasons to reach his rookie numbers again.

The fact that Zegras improved (minority) his sophomore season despite the team around him being significantly worse was huge, and as a playmaker, he's elevating the players he's on a line with (the first two seasons of which he was often saddled with subpar talent like Nick Deslauriers and your own Sonny Milano)

This season was a 12 game skid then two injuries followed by an 11 game showing where he looked better than his old self, we have zero reason to suspect he's not going to take significant strides next season on the counting stats.