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Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 13 h 44
Sujet:
Broon Jennah
If Boston is offering up swayman for a 30 year old Center. Go for Lindholm or maybe Schmaltz in Arizona.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 13 h 42
Sujet:
Sharks from a Devils fan
Pittsburgh will need to add a lot more to that if San Jose is retaining and taking on Petry and Granlund.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 13 h 41
Sujet:
Bostons 1 C Replacement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No from Winnipeg. There isn't anything there worth moving a retained 1C for.</div></div>
Agreed, but have to move him eventually. Just cannot let him walk for free. This may just be the best offer that comes around. Hopefully not, but who knows.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 13 h 4
Sujet:
How are you feeling Jets fans about our prospect pool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>I like it but it all starts with Scheifele and Hellebuyck being moved for good young players and Schmidt/Poink being moved for the Chisholm's and Heinola's to play. I dont care if we arent that great next year as it provides a jump for our young guys to get their feet wet</div></div>
Agreed. The fans here are a fickle bunch and if the team is not"good" they will stop showing up. That is why I feel like Chevy is handcuffed and cannot make deals for the future. This is a small market, if not the smallest in the league and ownership needs to put people in the seats so that Winnipeg can survive here. I think that is why Scheifele and Helle are still here. Teams don't want to give up on roster players for potential rentals were Winnipeg needs NHL players with team control.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 12 h 59
Sujet:
Bostons 1 C Replacement
Who else you got? Winnipeg doesn't need anymore LD.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 12 h 15
Sujet:
STANDINGS PREDICTION
You really think St Louis and Vancouver did enough to make a jump? I kind of think LA and Calgary will be ahead of those 2. Also, bold prediction on Buffalo and Detroit. Would love to see those teams make it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 12 h 12
Sujet:
Winnipeg
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KDev</b></div><div>You got it real backwards here. Maybe you’re trying to do some reverse psychology here but every team not named Winnipeg easily declines.</div></div>
I would have to agree with Windjammer here. How does any of these trades help Winnipeg now or in the future? Vanacek is the only NHL ready player and he is not that good, at best a backup. The futures are decent, but again, Winnipeg doesn't have time to wait, especially when they are giving up a Vezina caliber goalie, a 1C and a top 6 winger. I may be completely wrong, but I personally think this ACGM while a good attempt was made and with good intentions, really puts Winnipeg back even farther. I just don't see a single trade here where Winnipeg doesn't lose big time. The best player in all of these coming to Winnipeg in Firkus and even he is still years away and being a prospect. His ceiling or potential is unknown.
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Armchair-GM
25 juill. 2023 à 9 h 56
Sujet:
hoooo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VGKNation702</b></div><div>That’s atrocious for Vegas. Best player is going to WPG in Martinez (yes still) and we give up our 2 best prospects for a what bottom 6 forward and a step down in Dillon (while albeit cheaper) and have to take on more cap and pay 2 picks to do it? Lol
You hear how crazy this sounds</div></div>
While I agree with what you are saying with the valuation. Vegas is doomed if those are their 2 best prospects. This team needs to manage their picks better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 juill. 2023 à 15 h 54
Sujet:
fun stuff
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Falcon_talon</b></div><div>What I heard was he told the finnish media that him and Wheeler where bullying him to the point where he requested a trade.</div></div>
I think this is the article you may be referring to. I am not sure who Diane Doyle is but this is a pretty poor written story. I would not believe this one too much.
https://novacapsfans.com/2021/01/26/report-patrik-laine-revealed-reason-for-leaving-winnipeg-rude-treatment-in-locker-room/
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Armchair-GM
24 juill. 2023 à 10 h 34
Sujet:
fun stuff
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Falcon_talon</b></div><div>Aight no. Scheife will request a trade after his 2nd game as a Hurricane. Rod will drive him crazy because he is a whole load of crap when in the defensive end and does nothing for a centre. Rod already puts up with Necas' crap play iin the Dzone he will not tolerate Sheifele. Schiefele is also a locker room cancer I mean have you seen what Laine said about him? And he will not be playing 3C if he comes here.</div></div>
I don't believe Laine said anything about Sheifele at all. In fact, everything I read is Laine was unhappy because he was not playing with Scheifele on the top line.
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Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2023 à 12 h 44
Sujet:
What is a realistic return for Laf
His skill has been wasted on 3rd line minutes. I don't think NYR is ready to give up on him, but I also can't see him being worth anything more than maybe a 1st and a high end prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2023 à 12 h 33
Sujet:
Chevy 103 Octane Pt2
This team is in no position to be trading away assets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 juill. 2023 à 12 h 29
Sujet:
Deadline
I cannot see Carolina moving Jarvis. I have to think that he is a big part of that team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juill. 2023 à 11 h 34
Sujet:
Helley
This is a tough one for me. I am a Jets and Devils fan. From a Jets perspective, even at 30, Hellebuyck is still a Vezina finalist goalie the past couple of years. I do believe he has 4-5 good years still left in him and his value should be reflective of that. So as a Jets fan, I would not do this deal as Vanecek holds no value, especially after his playoff performance. Thompson is likely to be a 3rd-4th liner at best. Jets have a ton of those and the picks will be high because New Jersey will probably be cup contenders. So i would ask for a first, a high end prospect especially if we are taking on Vanecek contract and retaining on Hellebuyck.
Now as a Devils fan, I think Schmid is the future goalie of this team within the next year or two. Not sure they need Hellebuyck. In this case I would keep my picks and prospects until the TDL to possibly fill a position of need due to injury or whatever.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 56
Sujet:
brad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I mean it is
Has our star goalie said he wants out. Or did a guy we traded Laine for (who didnt want to leave) say I dont want to extend 2 years later. Or did we just buyout any of our top end talent. Heck did one of our players decide **** it I dont want to play leaving 7.6m behind. Nope
In the end what's WPG done, not a whole lot im afraid and all that above not a great look and it potentially is only gonna get worse.
We got cups sure 1967 but hey we got em. WPG is just burning money for the NHL rn and seems to not be a place players want to stay at this rate relocation might be a real possibility. While Toronto is one of the original 6 teams an original franchise who with 5 others helped make the NHL.
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None of the stuff that happened in WPG has happened here plus climate's better keep trying cause in the end when u think of Canadian hockey teams MTL, TOR, EDM, and VAN come more into the spotlight even stats back that up</div></div>
You are right, smallest market in Canada, horrible climate, tough to get premiere players to sign or stay. We have an excuse, your team and city just suck year after year after year. Please provide the proof that Buff left because he was in Winnipeg. Guys still has a cabin here, he must really hate this place. We went to the Conference final in 2018 with this bad team. Toronto, was it 93? You have a lot of cups for sure, must have been tough to win with 6 teams. I don't know if that is what i would be proud of.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 27
Sujet:
brad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Thats the plan we can just get Demelo in FA as with how things are probs gonna go in WPG best to get out while you can</div></div>
Haha. You are making it sound like Toronto is better than Winnipeg. Come on man, you guys just signed a 37 year old to a 3-year contract. Haven't won a cup since 67 and for the first time in a long time with a stacked team won 1 playoff series and then gave up. Please don't talk your like you are any better. The Leafs are and will always be the laughing stock of Canada unless you live there.
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Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 22
Sujet:
Legally cheating and Laf trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>What's going on with Laffy? I don't see many Rangers games. Is it mental or physical? Rangers fans, please help me out. Is he worth a late round fantasy hockey pick?</div></div>
Depends what your categories are. I think he just hasn't been given a real shot. He should get a chance on the top line to see what he can do and build some confidence. 1st overall carries a heavy bag until he finds his way.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 19
Sujet:
brad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Um Brodie is the better Defensive Dman.....
This season, TJ Brodie finished with the second-best xGA per minute impact by RAPM of the analytics era
The Leafs controlled 57% of the expected goals with Brodie on the ice at 5v5
<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/01/03121658/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-11.08.20-AM.png" alt="Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-11.08.20-AM.png">
<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/01/03132319/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-12.55.31-PM.png" alt="Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-12.55.31-PM.png">
Would suggest fans do their homework before saying stuff as the older guys the better guy lul. Should see Gio's card it even puts Demelo to shame lul</div></div>
These analytics comparisons on hockey players is ridiculous already. So many factors influence it, but you keep pulling them to try and make your point. If Brodie and Gio are better than Demelo, Leafs should keep them then. Winnipeg would much rather have the cheaper, younger player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 11 h 54
Sujet:
Winnipeg Jets Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Falcon_talon</b></div><div>Canes give you Necas, Morrow, 1st, and Ponomarev for KC</div></div>
That would be a hard offer to say no to.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 juill. 2023 à 9 h 29
Sujet:
brad
Please tell me why Winnipeg would trade the better defenceman in this deal? What does this do for Winnipeg?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2023 à 15 h 18
Sujet:
Whats stanley worth
It may be the closest thing Toronto gets to something named Stanley so it is Priceless.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2023 à 15 h 16
Sujet:
Scheifele and Helle deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>I don't think it's much of a risk to hold on to him and try him at forward, but I think signing Hellebuyck to the contract he's asking for is a huge risk</div></div>
I would agree, it would be less risky for Wpg to re-sign him to a big contract. We do not have the upcoming prospects that will need bigger contracts like NJ does.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2023 à 15 h 15
Sujet:
Scheifele and Helle deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yeah, I just can't follow the logic in the Boston trade.
Hellebuyck in your scenario returns very little because "historically goalies don't go for much", but then somehow an unproven goalie pulls a 1C coming off a 40G season and 6 point per game seasons.
So, the elite goalie returns almost nothing and the unproven one returns a gold mine. Hard to rationalize.</div></div>
One is 30 and one is 25. His career is just starting. Scheifele is also coming up on 30 if he isn't already. Fredrick is a former 1st round pick. So, yes, the goalie still doesn't hold more value than a Center.
I want to belive Helle will get a massive return, historically I just have nothing to base that off of. I think we will all be disappointed. I also don't think the trade deadline will get much. I cannot honestly ever remember a top tier goalie being moved at a deadline.
As a Jets fan, my first hope would be to re-sign both.
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Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2023 à 15 h 3
Sujet:
Scheifele and Helle deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>I think the assumption is the team hellebuyck goes to extends him. Hellebuyck speaks a lot about wanting to win a cup. After what sorokin got, he’s not making over 9 million. He needs to take less to win.</div></div>
Correct, he will get Sorokin type money. I would also imagine no longer than 5 years.
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Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2023 à 15 h 2
Sujet:
Scheifele and Helle deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Jets have to take vanecek back at least. I’m not sure why fans are scared of adding good players and having to make a move or two to make it work. Look at vegas lol. They added good players and made the money work and they won a cup doing it.</div></div>
Vanecek could be moved to another team. I just don't see a fit for him in Winnipeg. To me he is just another Pavalec.
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