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Tanking for Bedard - Nice TDL and Offseason IMO

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2022
Publié: 6 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
MTL doesn’t win the lottery and draft 4th OA (Simon Nemec)
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 150 000 $
11 700 000 $
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nemec, Simon
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
2022 TDL
TOR
    Ben Chiarot Half Retained
    2.
    MTL
    1. Ranta, Sampo
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
    COL
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    2022 TDL

    Lehky half retained 1.15M
    3.
    MTL
    1. Gauthier, Julien [Droits de RFA]
    2. Lundkvist, Nils
    3. Nemeth, Patrik
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
    Détails additionnels:
    2022 TDL
    NYR
    1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    Brett Kulak
    4.
    MTL
    1. Bourque, Mavrik
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
    Détails additionnels:
    I don’t wanna hear a DAL fans saying hell no or whatever I believe from what I’ve heard Petry still have good value
    DAL
    1. Petry, Jeff
    Détails additionnels:
    TDL after Dallas traded Klingberg
    5.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    ARI take Weber’s contract to help reach the floor + he isn’t worth a lot in actual money
    ARI
    1. Weber, Shea
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
    6.
    MTL
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    Détails additionnels:
    Same money same terms
    EDM
    1. Hoffman, Mike
    Détails additionnels:
    Change of scenery for both
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    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    6 févr. 2022 à 19 h 51
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    @jpsnow13 @ricochetii @sevenleg how great would that be
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    6 févr. 2022 à 19 h 56
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    You could add a 3rd or der argechunstev for chiarot

    Lehky will get more, switch ranta for barron

    Pretty good value for toffoli, except you can get kravtsov instead of Gauthier

    You could probably switch the 3rd to a 2nd in the dallas trade, but I won't complain

    Otherwise pretty good.
    Pleasantly surprised that it was. @GMs who created this.
    This was almost spot on values, good job.
    6 févr. 2022 à 19 h 59
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    Dallas counters

    To MTL: Benn, Lindell, Khudobin, $100 Gift card to Moxie’s

    To DAL: Caufield extended and 50% retained, all draft picks for the next 3 years.
    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 2
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    the leafs offer you Holl for your 1st, since Holl is much better than chariot and the canadians 1st will be much better than the leafs
    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 12
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    You could add a 3rd or der argechunstev for chiarot

    Lehky will get more, switch ranta for barron

    Pretty good value for toffoli, except you can get kravtsov instead of Gauthier

    You could probably switch the 3rd to a 2nd in the dallas trade, but I won't complain

    Otherwise pretty good.
    Pleasantly surprised that it was. GMs who created this.
    This was almost spot on values, good job.


    NYR would pass on this package let alone adding Kravs.
    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 13
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    You could add a 3rd or der argechunstev for chiarot

    Lehky will get more, switch ranta for barron

    Pretty good value for toffoli, except you can get kravtsov instead of Gauthier

    You could probably switch the 3rd to a 2nd in the dallas trade, but I won't complain

    Otherwise pretty good.
    Pleasantly surprised that it was. GMs who created this.
    This was almost spot on values, good job.


    No thanks on moving Barron.
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    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 18
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    You could add a 3rd or der argechunstev for chiarot

    Lehky will get more, switch ranta for barron

    Pretty good value for toffoli, except you can get kravtsov instead of Gauthier

    You could probably switch the 3rd to a 2nd in the dallas trade, but I won't complain

    Otherwise pretty good.
    Pleasantly surprised that it was. GMs who created this.
    This was almost spot on values, good job.


    You couldn’t get Barron straight up for Lehkonen. Period.
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    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 28
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    If Montreal picks 4th this year IMO, they have to pick one of Wright, Cooley, Lambert, or Savoie, they're all simply better players than the rest of the top 10.
    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 36
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    jpsnow13 ricochetii sevenleg how great would that be


    I'm not retaining on Toffoli period, but ... This is basically Lundkvist and a 2nd for Toffoli, with Nemeth to offset cap, which is fair.
    Upgrading that 2nd to a 1st + Gauthier for the retention isn't necessary. We can get a similar package elsewhere without retention and we don't need to lock up a spot to maximize return on Toffoli.

    Everything else is more or less within reason. Of course you know people will disagree because Petry is suddenly a one-legged zombie and every prospect is a younger McDavid, but in the real world the values are close enough.

    Arizona trade is the most controversial perhaps.
    A 2nd for Weber's contract is a good financial/business move. People can't evaluate it from a hockey perspective.
    You're selling a 2nd round pick for up to $24M, which is insane value for a 2nd, money wise.

    Edit: forgot to mention I have Jiribek before Nemec, but my goal if don't get 1st overall, is to trade down and select Jiribek then the BPA (hopefully a C).
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    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 50
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I'm not retaining on Toffoli period, but ... This is basically Lundkvist and a 2nd for Toffoli, with Nemeth to offset cap, which is fair.
    Upgrading that 2nd to a 1st + Gauthier for the retention isn't necessary. We can get a similar package elsewhere without retention and we don't need to lock up a spot to maximize return on Toffoli.

    Everything else is more or less within reason. Of course you know people will disagree because Petry is suddenly a one-legged zombie and every prospect is a younger McDavid, but in the real world the values are close enough.

    Arizona trade is the most controversial perhaps.
    A 2nd for Weber's contract is a good financial/business move. People can't evaluate it from a hockey perspective.
    You're selling a 2nd round pick for up to $24M, which is insane value for a 2nd, money wise.

    Edit: forgot to mention I have Jiribek before Nemec, but my goal if don't get 1st overall, is to trade down and select Jiribek then the BPA (hopefully a C).


    Forgot to mention the ARI trade is the worse 2nd RD pick going to MTL
    Jiricek & Nemec are pretty close, suck Jiricek got injured
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    6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 56
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    Forgot to mention the ARI trade is the worse 2nd RD pick going to MTL
    Jiricek & Nemec are pretty close, suck Jiricek got injured


    I'm just hoping it is a full and clean fix. Waiting to see if he might slide, but haven't heard anything yet.
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    6 févr. 2022 à 21 h 16
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    Quoting: Club_de_Hockey_le_Canadien
    If Montreal picks 4th this year IMO, they have to pick one of Wright, Cooley, Lambert, or Savoie, they're all simply better players than the rest of the top 10.


    I agree....We need to take a C
    7 févr. 2022 à 6 h 26
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    Why would ARI pay a 2nd for getting to the cap floor when they can get picks for taking on a cap dump?

    And no, Petry unretained is not worth a prospect drafted in the 1st round and an additional pick.

    The rest of the trades look fair tho.
    7 févr. 2022 à 9 h 17
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    Great for the future, maybe, but this team sucks.😭😭😭
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    7 févr. 2022 à 12 h 39
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    Quoting: M_Swann
    Why would ARI pay a 2nd for getting to the cap floor when they can get picks for taking on a cap dump?

    And no, Petry unretained is not worth a prospect drafted in the 1st round and an additional pick.

    The rest of the trades look fair tho.


    Everyone will be surprised when Petry gets way more than my offer
    7 févr. 2022 à 12 h 39
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    I agree....We need to take a C


    Bedard in 2023 wink
    7 févr. 2022 à 13 h 45
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    Everyone will be surprised when Petry gets way more than my offer


    I would definitely be very surprised.
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    7 févr. 2022 à 18 h 49
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    Quoting: M_Swann
    I would definitely be very surprised.


    But the good thing is the team acquiring Petry wouldn’t be fleeced, Petry will bounce back right away and it’s gonna end up a fair trade IMO
    8 févr. 2022 à 1 h 42
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    But the good thing is the team acquiring Petry wouldn’t be fleeced, Petry will bounce back right away and it’s gonna end up a fair trade IMO


    I agree that a Petry trade has the potential to become a win-win situation, but with his age, it's hard to say whether this is just a down year or if it's the start of a decline.
    8 févr. 2022 à 18 h 24
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    Quoting: M_Swann
    I agree that a Petry trade has the potential to become a win-win situation, but with his age, it's hard to say whether this is just a down year or if it's the start of a decline.


    It’s not like there’s no reason why he has a down year
    Wife & kids back in Michigan since Christmas
    Waiting for a 4th kid but he isn’t there, instead he plays for the worse team in the league in a province where you can’t do **** because of sanitary conditions
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