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Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 0 h 15

Sujet: Good question

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SJSGM</b></div><div>don't think they go for playoffs in 24/25, but I think 25/26 could make sense, at least be competitive
also Grier said they're letting Barbie walk (heard he might go back to Russia)</div></div>

Sharks have too many holes in their prospect/young player pool. I'm betting Celebrini heads back to college for another year while the Sharks tank (no pun intended) again and land another top 5 pick next year. Realistically, the Sharks are at least 26/27 until they can consider a run. Maybe more competitive in 25/26 but likely still a bottom 5 or 6 team.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 0 h 12

Sujet: A clarification for draft lottery fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaun80</b></div><div>So if Celbrini goes back to college next year, and if he does let's face it San Jose will finish dead last again, so if they win again next year they could still win and pick 1st the next 2 years? So basically 4 1sts in a row.</div></div>

Correct. A team is only allowed to move up to 1st twice, but SJ's natural position was first so it does not count against the 2 times allowed

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 0 h 11

Sujet: A clarification for draft lottery fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Oh. Good to know! When was this? Who wrote it?</div></div>

Today, I forget who wrote it

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 20 h 5

Sujet: Woww

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>That's right! 😉

I bet he was hoping for San Jose! 😁</div></div>

I'm sure he was okay with Chicago where he played juniors with the Chicago Steel as well but first choice probably is SJ because of family and where he spend a lot of time in his younger yearws

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 20 h 4

Sujet: Huge Overhaul

Lillypad is not worth a 2nd rounder. Hawks don't take JT for free and only a few have the cap space so likely Leafs will need to pay to move him or retain some of his cap hit

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 20 h 3

Sujet: Woww

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Yeah baby!

Celebriiiiiiiinnnnniiii!!!!!</div></div>

And now you know he's also a local kid! Honestly very happy for the Sharks and good for both them and the player

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 20 h 2

Sujet: A clarification for draft lottery fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I'm just being cautious. But I hope this interpretation is correct.</div></div>

It is, and The Athletic also just posted an article on it after interviewing the NHL head office.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 41

Sujet: Celebrating Celebrini

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>I didn't know his dad lived in SF?

Thanks for adding that! 😁

Who wouldn't want to play with Bedard? 😁</div></div>

Yes, his Dad is the team physician or strength coach for the Warriors. That's why Celebrini move to SF when he was young and played for the junior sharks

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 40

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>And with D contracts on the rise and cap on the rise, the deal probably doesn't get better/worse until the very end. And that is when you look to move him.</div></div>

Remember Seabrook? Another Stan Bowman blunder. If we have a chance to grab Marner for Jones, and flip Marner at the tdl for a couple of 1sts or a 1st and a good prospect, Hawks do it without thinking twice. No way does jones return positive assets today and down the road it won't get that much better. Hawks are rebuilding clearly, and moving a boat anchor contract for a couple of 1sts is not even remotely something to think twice about.

Think about this another way. In the last year of his contract, Jones will be 35 years old and eating up roughly 10% of the anticipated cap ceiling. Would you sign Kane next season for $8.5M for a year? Likely not, and Kane is 2 to 3 times the player Jones ever was and ever will be. Also, think about in the summer of 2025 and summer of 2026 without the Jones contract and what the Hawks can do in free agency with the extra space when quite a number of really good players become UFAs. $9.5M gets a heck of player.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 36

Sujet: Celebrating Celebrini

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Celebrini-Fantilli-Pinelli?

Love it!

It's like a Sopranos episode! 😆

Where's Fat F Bacala?

😆</div></div>

I'm betting Celebrini is either hoping for san jose or chicago given that his dad lives in SF and Celebrini played for the junior sharks or because he more recently played for the chicago steel and would love to play with bedard

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 35

Sujet: Celebrating Celebrini

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Friendly_Cannon</b></div><div>Celebrini Fantilli sounds too good for the hockey gods to ignore!!!</div></div>

Except Celebrini Bedard is even better in the eyes of the hockey gods; sorry

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 34

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>And maybe one day that 1st is as good as Seth Jones, but probably not.</div></div>

but maybe one day Stan bowman won't be around to overpay that player like he did with jones

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 33

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Maybe... Unless he severely limits his destinations, and the other team bends a CHI team desperate to move him over a barrel.

All in all, if Jones asks for a trade, I would rather just move him for positive value and not swap him for another contract with no guarantee of recouping anything. We don't need Marner.</div></div>

Highly doubt Jones is tradeable for positive value. He's overpaid, there's no disputing that around the league.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 14 h 33

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>That is not true. We don't know that. Jones contract has been just fine. And with the cap going up, and being on a team with a ton of cap flexibility already, it will become even more manageable. Even if we have to pay Bedsy a max contract and give Korch and Nazar $8 to $10M we will still have a lot of space. Three to five years from now the cap will be over $100M, maybe even well over.</div></div>

I'm not looking at it in totality of the team cap spend, simply from Jones earning his $9.5M cap hit. He's not getting better at his age and he's already overpaid by $1.5M to $2.5M which is only going to get worse as father time marches on

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 11 h 14

Sujet: Marner Leafs part ways

Chicago passes

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 11 h 13

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>If Marner gets hurt, then what? They're out their #1 RD and they've got damaged goods they can't even trade. Way too much risk for Chicago.</div></div>

The Jones contract will not age well as we all know. Yes, there is risk Marner gets hurt but his history doesn't suggest that.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 11 h 12

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Well that assumes Marner is open to waiving again for a 2nd trade. And then all you've really done is traded Jones for a late 1st and a prospect. Sorry, still rather keep Jones.</div></div>

That's a minimum. Marner could easily fetch a 1st, 2nd and prospect or 2 firsts...maybe even more

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 29

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>CHI isn't interested in moving Jones or acquiring Marner.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>Say it louder for the people in the back</div></div>

See my response above, but this would work for Chicago.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 28

Sujet: Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Why would the Hawks trade Jones, a minute munching #1 RD who plays in all situations and has 6 years left on his deal for one year of Marner? Even if Marner and Bedsy light it up next season, Hawks still don't make the playoffs. And then Marner walks and what are the Hawks left with?</div></div>

Because the Hawks retain 50% on Marner at the TDL and trade him for at least a first and a good young player or prospect. This move would make sense for Chicago

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 24

Sujet: A New Look

Take out Kurashev and Lillypad. Hawks aren't going to let go of Kurashev for 1 year of Marner plus Murphy and 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 22

Sujet: If the Hawks land Celebrini Tomorrow

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Doubt 2x$7m gets Roy. He'll get offers of 4 or 5 years at $6m in all likelihood. I'd be fine with Kaner coming back.</div></div>

As I said in the description, maybe Hawks give him 2 year for $8M?

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 22

Sujet: If the Hawks land Celebrini Tomorrow

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I think Reichel and Celebrini together would be a force and might help Reichel take another step. That is, if Celebrini transitions to the NHL well enough.</div></div>

Yes, I definitely agree. Nazar on the wing tbd, maybe Kurashev

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 1 h 32

Sujet: Get Toronto Past First Round

:laugh not even close, Chicago easily decline. Zero reason for Chicago to give up valuable assets for a 1 year rental

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 1 h 3

Sujet: Possible view of the leafs looking into the next season

Hawks easily decline. Timmons is waiver wire material and Jarnkrok is of no use to Chicago. Crevier is a big body RHD who is getting heavy minutes in the AHL and looked like a 3rd liner in the call up this year which they will need on the RHD once Murphy is gone and Rinzel is called up in two years.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 0 h 41

Sujet: Playoff bound

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>Matthews starts with Bedard</div></div>

LMAO :laugh Hawks easily would decline Bedard 1 for 1 for Matthews and I'll give you 12m reasons why starting with that's the cap hit difference between the two, not to mention 8 years younger

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