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Forum: Armchair-GM22 août 2020 à 18 h 52

Sujet: Pietrangelo Comes Home

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks1</b></div><div>Lol Canucks aren’t trading Gaudette for a winger. We have Boeser, Toffoli and Virtanen In the top 9. Gaudette only gets moved for a defenseman.</div></div>

Fair enough. Although only one of Boeser and Toffoli likely stays. And if it was me it Boeser would be on his way out. Toffoli is great. Under that circumstance you’d have Kapanen, Virtanen and Toffoli. Not a bad top 9!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 août 2020 à 14 h 41

Sujet: Subban

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>lol New Jersey is gonna retain more salary in that trade than they get back in total from Toronto</div></div>

That’s part of the deal. They Devils shed cap. For a team that is nowhere near competing I would assume the owners aren’t interested in spending to the cap. Net net they save $1 million in cap hit and more when you consider the bonuses already paid to Kapanen. So from the devils perspective you have less cash outflow over 3 years, get rid of a $9 million 2nd pairing defencemen and add younger players to build up the team. That was my thinking, not suggesting it makes sense though! Could be wrong

Forum: Armchair-GM21 août 2020 à 14 h 38

Sujet: Subban

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>deys3232</b></div><div>Khaira sucks

Thats a big win by the Oilers

Johnsson is worth 10 Khairas</div></div>

I do think there is value in the cap space. To add to the defence you will need to either trade players for picks or cheap players. Khaira +2 million cap space for Johnsson isn’t terrible value considering the flat cap. But I agree straight across Johnsson is the far better player

Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2020 à 18 h 38

Sujet: Russian Trio on the 4th line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Paul13</b></div><div>Wild say thank you.</div></div>

So do Leafs. 1.5mln cap space and some sandpaper

Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2020 à 18 h 37

Sujet: Russian Trio on the 4th line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Sorry. He's not a need, so the Jets won't waste address on him.</div></div>

All good. I was just trying to move him. Doesn't really matter where

Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2020 à 18 h 12

Sujet: Russian Trio on the 4th line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>The Jets won't give up a 2nd for a player they don't need.</div></div>

Give up a 7th then I don't care

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 15 h 2

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>He brought over clifford for cheap depth to make up for the loss of Trevor more and because clifford is decent defensively for a 4th line guy.
Since being a leaf clifford has shown himself to be entirely replacable.
Even when he was at peak during the kings cup runs he was their least used player by a wide margine, both in the regular season and playoffs and even more drastically during important games</div></div>

I look forward to the playoffs :)

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 15 h 1

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>he literally is better at everything and toughness doesnt matter if you are worse at all the actual hockey things</div></div>

Great thing about sports is the players solve these debates for us. I’ll be the first to admit that Engvall has a bigger impact than Clifford in the playoffs. No sense in arguing over it. I love Clifford as a player and he’s one of the few players on the Leafs that has won a cup.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 56

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Yeah, that doesnt happen. 4th liners throwing big hits on other 4th liners doesnt change momentum</div></div>

We’ll just have to disagree on this one. I have a feeling we’ll be having a different conversation after the playoffs are over and we see why Dubas brought Clifford in.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 51

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>pro tip guys like clifford are never that guy</div></div>

We will see this year. All it takes is a couple big hits in a playoff game to change momentum. Leafs have never had that. Blue, Bruins, Vegas, etc. all have those guys

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 49

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Engvall is better than clifford by a fair margin and now youre paying Clifford more to do that less</div></div>

I’m not sure I agree. For some reason people think the leafs need offence from their 4th line. Sure if you compare stats and overall player Engvall offers more. But Clifford is the only player on the leafs that change the momentum in a playoff game with his physicality. It’s funny because fans ripped Dubas for lacking toughness. So he trades for a great locker room guy and one of the toughest in the NhL, and now we want to keep Engvall?

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 18

Sujet: Keeping Andersen in 2021 with flat cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>I'd rather not have a 35+ year old goalie on the cap for 6 million dollars who isn't top 5</div></div>

Ya I get that. I should’ve just done a 1 year deal because I don’t care about term lol. I’m just trying to figure out how to sign him in 2021. That’s all I care about in this post not whether he gets 1 or 8 years

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 17

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>For 21-22, sure.

but next year he doesn't have arb rights or heavy point totals for a large raise</div></div>

You’re right sorry I thought you were commenting on my 2021 post

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 16

Sujet: Keeping Andersen in 2021 with flat cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>You could go 3 x 6.5 or so</div></div>

That makes the 2021 issue even worse. Again the term doesn’t matter because in future years that cap will increase. But in 2021 it will likely still be 81.5

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 15

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>That's a bit higher on Dermott for a 1 year deal than I'd like.</div></div>

I’m making the assumption that he proves himself next season

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 14 h 14

Sujet: Keeping Andersen in 2021 with flat cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>Couple of things:

Expansion draft means they'll be losing one of the forwards or Holl here.

Anything over 3 years for Freddy is a pass.</div></div>

Sure we can debate term, but that doesn’t really matter in 2021. My point is do you resign him to big dollars or do you build a more well rounded team with less talent in net at a cheaper cost.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 13 h 42

Sujet: Leafs 2021 Incorporating feedback from previous post

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>This works for me. Not a big fan of paying the 2nd to sign Clifford but it is certainly plausible.</div></div>

I agree. This deal is dependent on the value Clifford brings in the playoffs. If Dubas looks at Clifford as the final piece to get over the hurdle and he’s a good dressing room guy I’m ok to lose the 2nd. But if he just fills a regular 4th line role I’m ok to walk away. You don’t sign him for regular season, you sign him for the playoffs. I already like the impact he’s had on Kapanen’s physicality.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 12 h 59

Sujet: Leafs 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmurrayt</b></div><div>There are only about 8 teams that can afford to take on a cap hit for draft picks. There are close to 20 teams looking to dump some cap and get anything back in return. Teams with cap space are going to have lots of options out there and will not be giving up higher end draft picks for bottom half roster players. Compound that with Johnsson coming off a terrible season (only 3 even strength goals scored in over 1/2 a season while playing with talented line mates) and now coming off a serious leg injury, and you are going to hear the same thing from all 30 teams with these expectations. "Not interested".</div></div>

Only time will tell :)

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 12 h 27

Sujet: Leafs 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>oilers pass</div></div>

Similar to the Johnsson trade, doesn’t matter which of the 30 teams is involved in this trade

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 11 h 54

Sujet: Leafs 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sean4417 </b></div><div>too much money for Mikheyev and Dermott... bot hwill be in around 1.6-1.75 per</div></div>

Interesting. Obviously I’d prefer lower so I’d like to agree with you. It’s tough determining the value because both players are in the prove it stage of their career. The flat cap makes it really interesting.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2020 à 11 h 53

Sujet: Leafs 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnyoneButTheBruins</b></div><div>He's not exactly a need for the Red Wings with the rebuild I think they need all the picks they can get and not get players that don't exactly help us.</div></div>

Really doesn’t matter which of the 30 teams the pick comes from

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2020 à 16 h 40

Sujet: Leafs Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>If 5.5m sounds like 9.5m I can’t help you. I’m just being realistic about his contract demands.</div></div>

My point wasn’t 9.5 vs. 5.5 but more so relying on one breakout season as an outlier. His average production across 2 teams is ~50 points not 70+ Which is similar to Skinner (one 40 goal season over his career and he fetches 9.5mln)

I also don’t think people understand what the flat cap means for contracts. Generally you pay a guy assuming his cap % reduces over a 5yr deal. Whatever Domi gets this year as a % of the cap is gonna be the exact same in 3yrs. Maybe I’m a little off on the $ value, but anything over 5.5mln seems heavy. Could be wrong tho!

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2020 à 16 h 35

Sujet: Leafs Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Lol Domi got 72 points last season. He will cost more than this. And there is no way Freddy fetches that return. Don’t think he even gets Bear, though I do like the idea of getting Bear.</div></div>

Yes I’m reminded of the one season Domi broke out. For some reason the current season doesn’t matter to this chat. So let’s remove Domi from the equation. All I was really looking for is someone to play 3rd line Center defensively that is less expensive than Kerfoot and Johnsson combined. Couldn’t care less if Domi had 72 or 40 points. As for Andersen, I guess Bear is better than I thought. All I was looking for there is a dependable right handed dman with some contract protection.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2020 à 16 h 28

Sujet: Leafs Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Except domi put up 72 points last season. He would be great in toronto but his contract will be 5,5-6.5m. Bit rich for the leafs first line.</div></div>

Sounds like Jeff Skinner

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juill. 2020 à 16 h 11

Sujet: Leafs Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Goalies don’t carry that much value and domi will cost a bit more.</div></div>

If Domi costs more I’d just scrap the trade and move those guys for picks and sign a 3rd line Center UFA for a similar price. Shouldn’t need to pay top dollar for 40-50 consistent points

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