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Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai 2016 à 8 h 40
Sujet: 2016-17 Trade Market Set For Top 4 D
Palhal - That trade proposal is based upon it being a trade & sign. Most likely, any team looking to trade for Shattenkirk will be able to negotiate with him on a deal prior to the two teams pulling the trigger on the deal. If there is no agreement between Shattenkirk and the team on a deal, then there is no trade. Like I mentioned above, I don't think the Bruins have the assets to pull it off, unless Shattenkirk really wants to come to Boston. In which case, just sit back and wait for him next off-season as a UFA. But, I don't see that happening.

Bruins_Fan1990 - what do you think you're going to get Shattenkirk for? Edmonton has the #4 pick and 3 stud NHL players for St. Louis to pick from (Hall, Eberle, or RNH). I'm all on ears on your recommendations of beating a deal from Edmonton.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2016 à 22 h 6
Sujet: first order of business...
Your answer still doesn't fill the question - if they let Miller walk who would play his minutes next year? And what would that production look like from that player, or players? Could he play 19 minutes a night and be +13? Doubtful. I understand this contract is a product of the Bruins not having young guys in the system ready to take over roles like this, but simply stating that issue doesn't solve the problem. They need someone to play those minutes next year and K Miler at $2.5 mill/year is the best option. The alternative would be to sign a guy like Kyle Quincey (there'a not much out there) , but he will cost $3.5 mill + per year, and there's no guarantee you would get him anyways. And honestly - I think Miller is a better player anyways. Quincey was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. If Miller hit the market he would get somewhere between McQuaid's contract (4 years $11 mill) and Fayne's contract (4 years $14 mill). And I think he's better than both of them. I know the term isn't ideal but there's no way he would have signed a 1 or 2 year deal when it is a lock that he would get a 4 year deal on the market.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2016 à 19 h 36
Sujet: Leafs 2016-17: Stamkos, Vessey, trades - ANA, CHI, CLB, ARZ
JimCarrey - I don't think it's that simple. Just look at how Toronto media treated Kessel, and now he's thriving in Pittsburgh. And Toronto still hasn't won a cup in how long?

He's going to want to be gauaranteed a top 6 role so he can get points and cash in, in 2 years when he's a FA. That report of him signing in Boston came out prior to Toronto getting the #1 overall pick, and he doesn't have to sign till August 15, which means Stamkos could be there prior to him signing. So those two factors may make Toronto attractive to him. But Toronto could also bury him if he doesn't perform up to standards whereas other teams would be more patient. I think he'd be better off elsewhere. Boston would be less pressure, as would many other markets...Pitt could be attractive to him too.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2016 à 16 h 46
Sujet: first order of business...
I understand where you are coming from on McQuaid being part of a deal, especially if the Wild have a young guy that could fill those minutes at a much cheaper price. I wasn't quite sure what they had for young dmen behind what is currently on their NHL roster.

As for the Miller contract. That contract itself isn't a bad deal. I think you're underestimating the market for dmen. Everyone knows what he is - he's a 6th dman and a penalty killer. And he's not a bad 6th dman as he lead the Bruins dmen in +/- last year which means he's doing his job when hes out there. You're fooling yourself, if you think C. Miller, or another young guy in their system would be able to take over K. Miller's role and do it as effectively as he does it. And there is nothing on the free agent market that you could get for $2.5 mill per year for equivalent production. The problem the Bruins have is they need top end dmen. However, the K. Miller contract has no bearing on that whatsoever, as they still have $20 mill in cap space, unfortunately, I don't think they're going to be able to buy themselves out of their d-man problem. Even if they had $40 mill in cap space, who would they be able to buy that's a UFA that gives them a true top 2 dman?
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2016 à 15 h 38
Sujet: first order of business...
The Wild are up against the cap. They have $10 mill in cap space for next year and still need to sign 1 dman, 5 forwards, and a goalie for next year.

I disagree with you on the bridge deal with Dumba. I think that is going to cost about $4 mill per year. This would then leave them with about $6 mill in space and still needing to sign 5 forwards and a goalie. This is why I think the Bruins match up with them as a trade partner as the Bruins have Spooner, Pastranak, and Vatrano who are top 6 producers and each cost $925k, $925k, and $792k. So, I think the Wild would move a big contract in favor of some sort of combination of those three guys, and I think McQuaid would be added to the package as the Bruins would be giving up a lot and have duplicity at the 6th dman role. So, if the Bruins got Brodin in return, and the Wild plugged McQuaid into their d-core, that's just under $2 mill in cap savings for the Wild.

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure how to value what would go and what should come in return. But given that the Wild need cap space, and the Bruins have cap space and young guys still on entry level contracts, it seems like a natural fit for a trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2016 à 9 h 42
Sujet: Why would you pay him 2.5?
Big Buff got $7.2 mill not even going to FA. Yandle will get $7 mill. Someone always pays for the top guy at a position in free agency. My guess is Florida gives it to him - they would basically just give him Brian Campbell's contract that comes off the books this year. Yandle isn't taking a home town discount of $1 mill per year over 7 years. Way too much to give up.

You would need to combine a young NHL player that is making less than a $1 mill with Hayes for another team to take his contract. No team is going to basically pay $2.1 mill for a draft pick.

Coyle is in Minny to stay. He's a very solid 3rd line center for them and he's their future 1st or 2nd line center. If they move any forwards it will be one of their big contracts, Pominville or Vanek, to make room for Okposo who is rumored to want to go back to Minnesota. Connolly is not a proven scorer in the NHL. He's a 3rd liner at best. Koko hasn't even proven he can be a regular in the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2016 à 13 h 0
Sujet: Stamkos Part 3
I agree having Krug and Vatanen together might not be ideal. They certainly can tinker with that. Hargrove - I just plugged him in there. I'm sure they can find a veteran or another young guy to play on the 4th line for that same cap hit. The money on Chara might be more realistic then you think - his cap hit for 16/17 is $6.9 and then it goes down to $4 mill for 17/18 season. If Anaheim resigns Vatanen they'll be paying him somewhere around $9 mill over the next 2 seasons. So perhaps they may have an appetite for paying $11 mill for Chara, over that same period.

As for the trades not making sense....I disagree. Chara, a puck moving prospect, and a 1st rounder for Vatanen sounds like a haul for Anaheim. The Myers trade would probably need more work. But, I was thinking of it from the perspective that Myers may be a movable part for them since they just paid Big Buff $7.2 mill per year. They have a lot of money invested at D. I think a package could be put together for him. Griffiths would be a regular on Winnipeg's top 6 for a cheap cap hit.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mai 2016 à 13 h 37
Sujet: Stamkos
You would have $14 mill in cap space going into 2017-18. And this figure is based upon the cap not going up in 2017/18, which presumably it will since it is not increasing this year. Hard to imagine the cap not moving 2 years in a row. So maybe there will be a little bit more than $14. Anyways, say it is $14 mill, that would be enough to sign two of the three FA's you mentioned. If you had Stamkos, signing all 3 wouldn't be necessary. You can plug and play a lot more when you have a stud like Stamkos. Also, the Brouwer signing is a bit of a luxury here too (more of a wish list). You could probably plug Stempniak into that role for $3 mill this year and next, which frees up another $2 mill. I think they should go after Stamkos hard. Similar to how they went after Chara in 2006.