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Armchair-GM
15 déc. 2020 à 19 h 5
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Should Not Have Signed Bogosian
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>No, he's supposed to be an solid PKer (which will help). Should be fine in 3rd pair min when needed, and can provide a different element if Leafs are lacking physicality in a tough playoff series.
Also, if it's not working out, considering he's not making big $$, shouldn't be too tough to move.
p.s. "He has outstanding skating ability and puck skills that allows him to generate a lot of offence" - I don't think I've even seen Bogosian described this way. I view him as a Polak type.</div></div>
I think Bogosian is more mobile and offensive minded than Polak.
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Armchair-GM
15 déc. 2020 à 18 h 59
Sujet:
Should Not Have Signed Bogosian
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>hes an alright guy to take a flyer on, not like there were many other options they could afford</div></div>
Yeah that’s true but I believe Slater Koekkoek is still unsigned & he’s a solid 3rd pairing guy. I’m surprised Dubas didn’t take him being as analytically savvy as he is.
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Armchair-GM
15 déc. 2020 à 18 h 57
Sujet:
Should Not Have Signed Bogosian
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>As long as the play him in a sheltered role not like they did with Ceci; then he’ll be fine</div></div>
That’s fair. He needs to be on the third pairing at most.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
15 déc. 2020 à 18 h 14
Sujet:
My Hot Take On The Leafs This Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>I get that leaf fans want them to be this vastly improved team but I just dont see it. Brodie is a better fit then Barrie, whether or not we find out ho much of a product of Giordano he was or not though will be the question. Simmonds and Clifford are pretty much a wash in the same position, difference is their age and how Simmonds will hold up in a compressed schedule. Adding Thorton is kind of useless, he will make the second wave pp better, where he fits in the line up every night is where I question it, they're gonna have to alternate between him, Spezza and kerfoot in those bottom 6 center positions. Bogosian on defence toughens them up a bit but still just a depth dman that isnt gonna play every game.
The biggest thing is that they are still easy to play against. The big 4 will put up points, that's guaranteed, beyond that though Toronto will be in tough in this new division. Their stars will be targeted every game like always, but playing the same tough competition every game will wear on them. Add in injuries to any of the big names, with no depth skill to replace them and Toronto will struggle. Playing 3-4 games a week, with more back to backs and no breaks against easy teams (except Ottawa) will test this team more then they have been in the past.
Think they finish in the top half of this division, but they wont be able to pull away from any one team and if they suffer injuries to multiple star players then they are likely battling for a playoff spot. This season will be unpredictable though so will be fun to watch.</div></div>
Yeah I think it's definitely possible that the stars will get overwhelmed and shut down from having to play a physically intimidating style that on a nightly basis which they're not used to. A lot of people say that the Canadian division is easy, it's certainly not the best but competition will be tight, giving the Leafs plenty of adversity to face.
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Armchair-GM
15 déc. 2020 à 18 h 12
Sujet:
Should Not Have Signed Bogosian
Do you guys think the Leafs made a mistake signing Bogosian?
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Armchair-GM
15 déc. 2020 à 18 h 9
Sujet:
Bonino and Foligno to the Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>It also rhymes so this trade is just destined to happen now</div></div>
It's definitely a lot to give up but both players are really good. Are you an analytics supporter, sir?
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Armchair-GM
14 déc. 2020 à 17 h 11
Sujet:
Whos Better Matthews Kane or Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>you cant compare a wing to a center. The roles are not the same. If Matthews or Eichel were RW's then yes you could make that comparison but they dont so its invalid.
Eichel and Matthews can be compared but Kane is a RW so the comparison goes no where
The real comparison should be Matthews vs. Eichel</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Silkysmooth42</b></div><div>Kane obviously had an amazing career but the other two are better now.
As far as them two: Leafs fans will certainly argue Eichel and Sabres fans will kill you if you dont say Matthews,
but from an unbiased and realistic perspective: It is Eichel
Look at the teams they have played on and their stats overall... Stats are very similar overall with very minor differences, but the teams? MY GOD is it clear!!
Lets see how Eichel plays with year with good linemates like Matthews has had.
Eichel for now, but if he still doesnt outshine Matthews this year with a better team than previous years, Matthews may get the edge</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>As stated, it's really hard to compare players that don't play the same position. Obviously Kane has the best career so far and I'd be dubious to say either Eichel or Matthews will win more Cups than him. If you factor in the kind of talent surrounding Eichel and Matthws then I think you'd have to say Eichel is more talented. He is the only offensive weapon the Sabres have and doesn't have elite supporting cast like Matthews does with Tavares, Nylander, and Marner. Eichel's GAR for the season was 13.6, Matthews was 15.2. While Matthews is higher, is that due to the talent around him or is he really better. I'll say that Eichel is a better skater, has better speed, and is a better passer. Matthews is better at faceoffs, defense, and shooting/scoring. It's honestly a tight race</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>Eichel had 40 goal Skinner, Reinhart, Olofsson, Evander Kane, etc. over the years, I hate when people say that he hasn't played with good players. Sure Matthews has a better team around him but keep in mind the guys he has consistently played with are like Hyman, Brown, Johnsson, Kapanen, Nylander, and only a couple months of Marner this year. Sounds to me like Matthews' line mates haven't been a whole heck of a lot better than Eichel's, and he has consistently outproduced (in goals and points) Eichel throughout their entire careers.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mapleleafs_queen9434</b></div><div><a href="/users/MitchMarnerElite" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MitchMarnerElite</a></div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>I wasn't aware that Kane is actually a good player, especially at that time lol. Skinner had 1 good year with Eichel and Reinhart has barely gotten more than 50 points playing with Eichel. Olofsson was good for a rookie, but not great yet.
Matthews has had Nylander and Marner, none of the Buffalo wings are as good as those guys so bad argument.
Give Eichel Marner or Nylander and he's easily a 90-100 point player...
Keep in mind the defense Eichel had to play with, not just the wings.</div></div>
I think a better comparison would be prime John Tavares vs Jack Eichel cuz they both had to carry their stinking teams. Tavares during his 9 seasons in NYI averaged 35 goals & 77 points per 82 games. His most common linemates were Moulson & Okposo. Eichel so far has averaged 32 goals and 78 points every 82 games in Buffalo. So I would say those 2 are on the same level.
As for Matthews, I think he’s on the same level as MacKinnon. He’s just a generational goal scorer. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone as dominant at even strength since Pavel Datsyuk.
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Armchair-GM
14 déc. 2020 à 9 h 11
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>6 LDs and two overpayments...can't see that being a recipe for success.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheresAlwaysNextYear</b></div><div>Overpay for both</div></div>
Yes I agree it’s an overpayment. But I feel that’s what it’ll have to take cuz both players are really good.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 20 h 40
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Can he play his off-side though. Any time I saw him he was playing with Heiskanen (who was playing RD).</div></div>
I watched him in PIT when he was playing the right side & from everything I’ve read about him, he can play either.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 36
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Of course not. Pretty weak LW. Foligno's nice but he's not even a LW top winger on a middling to poor Minnesota team. Yep, Olesiak is OK, but to flip to the right side, and to trade the dependable Holl isn't really an advantage to the Leafs. Really don't you think it's a kinda ridiculous post to think adding Foligno and Olesiak minus Holl makes that much of difference to the Leafs changes this season (and to give up a 1st and 2nd too):shakehead</div></div>
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah it’s not ideal to give up all those assets for rentals. I do think Oleksiak makes a difference though, he conceded shot attempts and chances at some of the lowest rates in the league last season. Holl is good & I’d keep him if there was cap space, but I feel Oleksiak can push Toronto’s blue line to be one of the better ones in the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 30
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>I think you are over valuing him. I mean, you have him on the first line. Even in minnisota, he's a 4th liner. He's a great player, but not worth a first as a rental.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Exactly. Not every gritty 3rd/4th liner turns into Tom Wilson the minute you play them with a star player.</div></div>
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah it definitely seems a bit much to give up a 1st for Foligno.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 18 h 30
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>I guess I should say, I love foligno. Would be happy to have him. Or is brother Nick (just cheaper).
I would also take Boone Jenner any day. Blue Jackets fans seem to want him gone. I feel there would be a line up for him.</div></div>
Yeah Boone is a really solid player with grit & heaviness. IDK why Jackets fans dislike him, he seems to fit perfectly in their system.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 18 h 30
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Considering this is the first full year Dubas has his own coach in place, I really don't see the panic, or this being the last chance for this group.
You can probably pump the breaks a bit.</div></div>
Yeah that’s fair. This was technically Dubas’ first offseason in which he had full control of the team’s transactions (last year he had to clean up Lou’s Zaitsev and Marleau contracts).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 18 h 18
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>A lot of the analytics for defensemen we all keep pulling out are highly dependent on one thing, do your forwards fulfil their defensive assignments? If not, I don’t care if you have Hedman paired with Petro back there with Gibson in net, you will not win.
Is Oleksiak an upgrade from Holl with the same forwards on the ice? I don’t know.</div></div>
You are right man. But honestly, I think all the forwards on my team are pretty defensively responsible except Marner, Nylander & Robertson.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 17 h 35
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Swedenheim</b></div><div>Why do I keep getting mentioned in these threads?</div></div>
I see you’re on CapFriendly a lot so I just want to hear your opinion on my teams.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 17 h 33
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oodz</b></div><div>On paper the team looks great, but the again it’s the Leafs were talking about lol</div></div>
Yeah I agree, the Leafs always find a way to disappoint.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 17 h 33
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Oh, that's too much for Foligno, even with the retention.
Patience is a virtue. So far, Holl hasn't shown to be so bad* that Toronto has to pay to upgrade there.
* meaning we haven't even played any games this season yet.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Too much for foligno and oleksiak isnt even bettet than holl</div></div>
Thanks for the feedback. I think Holl’s a solid 4D but Oleksiak has some of the top defensive results in the league so i couldn’t resist.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 17 h 30
Sujet:
Going All In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>I didn’t realize how good statistically Marcus <a href="https://public.tableau.com/shared/KQNXJ4TDR?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://public.tableau.com/shared/KQNXJ4TDR?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link</a></div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>He’s a 4th liner but he’s fantastic in that role, not to mention his leadership. This is why MIN fans really value him and one of the reasons I think the Wild could surprise people in 2021-2022. (I’m fully writing next year off)</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ConnorMcHellebucyk</b></div><div>Goodrow fetched a first. Foligno is better imo. Certainly possible</div></div>
Yeah Foligno’s a beast. I definitely think he could fetch a first.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 16 h 54
Sujet:
Going All In
Do you guys think my armchair team can win the cup?
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 12 h 41
Sujet:
Two teams that will most likely be bad that no one is talking about
I am one of the few people who thinks Lafreniere will really struggle on NYR. The coach will most likely put him with Howden & the Bitteto-JJ pairing. He is going to get crushed at even strength.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
13 déc. 2020 à 11 h 59
Sujet:
My Hot Take On The Leafs This Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Leafs and Columbus was a series of a couple of middling NHL teams. Went to the deciding game....Leafs were hardly crushed as a Leaf hater suggested. If Leafs a goalpost and crossbar shot had been goals, in game seven, then maybe the Leaf win the series. Then like Columbus did, probably win just one game in the next series.</div></div>
Yeah I agree the Leafs had plenty of good scoring chances that they didn’t capitalize on. No doubt they would’ve lost to Tampa in the next round pretty badly though.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
13 déc. 2020 à 11 h 57
Sujet:
My Hot Take On The Leafs This Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>Please stop pinging me with massive text blocks.
Most of what you said is a repeat of the last few years. Bogosian is not going to be carried by Hedman anymore, and I’m assuming Lehtonen will be the annual “cheap FA defenseman that might exceed expectations but never does” for Toronto.
Leafs fans can blame Marner or Tavares or Marincin or Dubas or whomever, as always. The defense is still not defensive enough.</div></div>
IDK man, last year the Leafs were a middle of the pack defensive team in terms of conceded shot attempts & scoring chances with guys like Ceci, Barrie & Marincin playing big minutes. This year with Holl & Brodie in their top 4 (two guys who had solid defensive results last season in big roles), I expect them to be better.
I really don’t see the defence being a problem this season. It’s a lack of heart and effort from their top guys like Marner that will hold them back.
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Armchair-GM
12 déc. 2020 à 19 h 20
Sujet:
Who are the playoff chokers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>I mean he has good numbers in the playoffs but yeah I agree. As the best player and leader of your team, Joe has to take responsibility for sharks never winning a cup. That team was STACKED for a decade and couldn’t muster up a cup. I’d also throw in Henrik/Daniel Sedin if I can include past players. Same argument for them too. Had some good numbers but just could never lead their team over the hump</div></div>
MAF had 4 straight playoffs with a sub 88 save percentage & during that span gave up 31 more goals than the average goaltender. He had some clutch moments but he’s not a HOF in my book.
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Armchair-GM
12 déc. 2020 à 19 h 14
Sujet:
Who are the playoff chokers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LGR</b></div><div>Its because he has no leadership skills. Guy is a robot. Very uninspiring for the extremely soft and weak minded young players they have on the team</div></div>
He may not have an outrageous personality but as an individual he performs. He’s led his team in scoring chances by a wide margin every playoffs. There’s only so much 1 player can do.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
12 déc. 2020 à 19 h 4
Sujet:
My Hot Take On The Leafs This Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Well, you name all 3 as being lazy, one dimensional, etc.
You don't have to agree with everything everyone posts on here.
Tavares is a much different player from Marner and Nylander.</div></div>
I guess you have a good point man.
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