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GM Game - Winnipeg Jets v2

Créé par: TrueNorth
Équipe: 2017-18 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2017
Publié: 15 sept. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Winnipeg Jets

Players most likely to be moved in trades:

Chariot
Franson
Hutchinson

Manitoba Moose (AHL Roster)

Goldobin-Motte-De Leo
Lemieux-Hendricks-Sgarbossa
Harkins-Spacek-Lodge
Robinson-Lipon-Haley

Morin-Poolman
Chariot-Niku
Melchiori-Nogier
Schilling-Kostalik
Subban

Comrie
Hutchinson
Phillips

Prospects -

LW - CJ Franklin - Minnesota State Univ.
LW - Skyler McKenzie - Portland Winterhawks
C - Ivan Telegin - CSKA Moskva (If he returns to the NHL)
C - Matt Ustaski - Univ. of Wisconsin
C - Santeri Virtanen - Dubuque Fighting Saints
C - Jordy Stallard - Prince Albert Raiders
C - Pavel Kraskovsky - Lokomotiv Yaroslavl
D - Croix Evingson - UMass-Lowell
D - Jack Glover - Univ. of Minnesota
D - Jacob Cederholm - Vasterviks IK
D - Johnathan Kovacevic - Merrimack College
D - Dylan Samberg - Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth
D - Leon Gawanke - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
D - Luke Green - Sherbrooke Phoenix (Signed after 9/15 IRL)
G - Arvid Holm - Karlskrona HK J20
G - Mikhail Berdin - Sioux Falls Stampede
Transactions
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5.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (WPG)
6.
WPG
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Détails additionnels:
Tyler Motte
COL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
7.
CBJ
    COL trade
    8.
    9.
    WPG
    1. Schenn, Brayden (1 000 000 $ retained)
    STL
      From previous trade
      10.
      WPG
      1. Green, Mike (3 000 000 $ retained)
      2. Howard, Jimmy (2 641 667 $ retained)
      Détails additionnels:
      Michael Haley (AHL)
      DET
      1. Mason, Steve
      2. Matthias, Shawn
      Détails additionnels:
      Rights to Vesalainen
      11.
      FLA
        DET Trade
        12.
        WPG
          Pitt 3rd Round Pick 2018
          13.
          WPG
          1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
          DET
            Part of Niku trade
            14.
            WPG
              2019 4th (NYR)
              Alex Chaisson
              15.
              WSH
                Minny Trade
                16.
                WPG
                1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
                NYR
                  Minny Trade
                  17.
                  WPG
                    Jacob Silfverberg
                    Cody Franson
                    18.
                    ANA
                      Philly Trade
                      19.
                      CHI
                        Philly Trade
                        20.
                        WPG
                          Picked up off waivers
                          Rachats de contrats
                          Enfoui
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                          2019
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                          Logo de NYR
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                          2020
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                          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                          2375 000 000 $64 587 499 $0 $5 200 000 $10 412 501 $

                          Formation

                          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                          AG
                          UFA - 2
                          6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
                          C
                          UFA - 7
                          5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
                          AD
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                          AD, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
                          C, AD
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
                          C, AD, AG
                          UFA - 2
                          3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                          AD, AG
                          UFA - 2
                          4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
                          C, AG
                          UFA - 3
                          3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
                          AD, AG
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
                          C, AG, AD
                          UFA - 2
                          1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          650 000 $650 000 $
                          C, AG
                          UFA - 2
                          850 000 $850 000 $
                          C, AG, AD
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $
                          AD, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          660 000 $660 000 $
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                          4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
                          DG/DD
                          NTC
                          UFA - 1
                          7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
                          DD
                          NMC
                          UFA - 4
                          2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
                          DG/DD
                          UFA - 2
                          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                          DD
                          UFA - 2
                          1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
                          DG/DD
                          UFA - 2
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1
                          2 649 999 $2 649 999 $
                          G
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                          5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
                          DG
                          NMC
                          UFA - 1
                          3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
                          DD
                          NTC
                          UFA - 1

                          Exclus de la formation

                          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                          839 167 $839 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 2
                          825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 2
                          700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD, C, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 2
                          863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                          AG
                          UFA - 2
                          767 500 $767 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
                          AG
                          UFA - 3
                          750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance115 000 $$115K)
                          C
                          UFA - 3
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          720 833 $720 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance135 000 $$135K)
                          C, AG, AD
                          UFA - 1
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          668 333 $668 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                          645 000 $645 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance232 500 $$232K)
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
                          DG, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1
                          1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ (125 000 $$125K125 000 $$125K)
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DG
                          UFA - 1
                          713 333 $713 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DD
                          UFA - 2
                          675 000 $675 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          625 000 $625 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DG
                          UFA - 1
                          755 000 $755 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance95 000 $$95K)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1
                          693 333 $693 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance115 000 $$115K)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1

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                          1 mars 2018 à 1 h 48
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          If I were to retain the pick increases... I can take Enstrom for the season yea... would want another good prospect or high pick to take him


                          So you are at something like Victor Rask for Dano, Enstrom (waives his NMC), a prospect like Virtanen/Telegin/Berdin and my 2018 2nd???
                          1 mars 2018 à 6 h 28
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          Everyone is Touchable isn't just a catchy trademark. Yes he is available, along with all of my other players if I feel like the trade makes my team better.


                          What would you want for him?
                          1 mars 2018 à 9 h 11
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          So you are at something like Victor Rask for Dano, Enstrom (waives his NMC), a prospect like Virtanen/Telegin/Berdin and my 2018 2nd???


                          Thinking along the lines of

                          New York Rangers

                          Erik Foley
                          Sami Niku
                          Marko Dano/18 3rd Jets
                          2nd
                          Enstrom

                          Winnipeg Jets

                          Rask
                          Potentially a contract or two to balance stuff out


                          With retention in the deal it would likely need to be your 19 1st and 19 2nd in replacement of the 19 2nd and Marko Dano above
                          1 mars 2018 à 9 h 44
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                          Quoting: TabooPenguo
                          What would you want for him?


                          I want Keifer Bellows for him but that is highly optimistic. I would accept a second round pick.
                          1 mars 2018 à 9 h 48
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          Thinking along the lines of

                          New York Rangers

                          Erik Foley
                          Sami Niku
                          Marko Dano/18 3rd Jets
                          2nd
                          Enstrom

                          Winnipeg Jets

                          Rask
                          Potentially a contract or two to balance stuff out


                          With retention in the deal it would likely need to be your 19 1st and 19 2nd in replacement of the 19 2nd and Marko Dano above


                          Not awful but way too much future for me to give up for what would amount to my fourth line centre. The difference between Rask and Lowry isn't enough for me to pay that price. I would still explore what it would cost for you to liberate Enstrom.
                          1 mars 2018 à 9 h 58
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          Not awful but way too much future for me to give up for what would amount to my fourth line centre. The difference between Rask and Lowry isn't enough for me to pay that price. I would still explore what it would cost for you to liberate Enstrom.


                          Just trying to get roughly equal value on the market as to what Eller got... Rask hasn't had a great year... but is still likely worth a 2nd and prospect or 2nd and 3rd imo
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 0
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                          Not sure if I can liberate Enstrom without BOE approval because you only have 2/4 NMCs required...

                          But it would likely need to include Niku and Foley
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 0
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          Just trying to get roughly equal value on the market as to what Eller got... Rask hasn't had a great year... but is still likely worth a 2nd and prospect or 2nd and 3rd imo


                          Rask for 2018 Second, Enstrom and dano.
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 2
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          Rask for 2018 Second, Enstrom and dano.


                          Remove Dano and add Niku and Foley
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 26
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                          Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
                          I have enough cap room now to make a deal for Simmonds without having to include Spooner who you didn't seem to like very much. I think I'm offering something better than Spooner doing this, but how would you feel about Bos 2018 1st for Simmonds?


                          Bumping this to see if you prefer a 2018 1st+ to Ryan Spooner+.
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 26
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          Remove Dano and add Niku and Foley


                          I can't add Rask without unloading Enstrom's contract. Might need to revisit in the offseason.
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 28
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                          Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
                          Bumping this to see if you prefer a 2018 1st+ to Ryan Spooner+.


                          IRL you wouldn't get Simmonds for both Spooner and a first. unless you are of the opinion that Nash is better than Simmonds.
                          1 mars 2018 à 10 h 56
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          IRL you wouldn't get Simmonds for both Spooner and a first. unless you are of the opinion that Nash is better than Simmonds.


                          Real life prices are more than double what prices on here are. Look at what Rick Nash got in real life and then look at his trade for Bouwmeester on here.... a lot different type of package.

                          I will not go as high as a 2018 1st + Spooner for Simmonds. I could do some other type of package but I'm not going to burn 2 really quality assets for a 1 and a 4th year rental that I wouldn't afford in 2019-2020 because of McAvoy, Heinen and Carlo needing to be signed.

                          Who do you think is more valuable Torey Krug or Wayne Simmonds? Just for reference in case I pick up another LHD I might be able to move him.
                          1 mars 2018 à 11 h 40
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          I can't add Rask without unloading Enstrom's contract. Might need to revisit in the offseason.


                          Trying to get the BOE to allow you to waive the NMC
                          1 mars 2018 à 15 h 38
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                          Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
                          Real life prices are more than double what prices on here are. Look at what Rick Nash got in real life and then look at his trade for Bouwmeester on here.... a lot different type of package.

                          I will not go as high as a 2018 1st + Spooner for Simmonds. I could do some other type of package but I'm not going to burn 2 really quality assets for a 1 and a 4th year rental that I wouldn't afford in 2019-2020 because of McAvoy, Heinen and Carlo needing to be signed.

                          Who do you think is more valuable Torey Krug or Wayne Simmonds? Just for reference in case I pick up another LHD I might be able to move him.


                          Wayne Simmonds is a more complete player. The way we are doing UFAs now, you would be able to sign a top 15 LW at fair market value. I would doubt that either of us would let an asset like Simmonds walk. I'm fine keeping him and seeing what I can resign him for after the 2018-19 season.
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                          1 mars 2018 à 15 h 39
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          Trying to get the BOE to allow you to waive the NMC


                          Too bad you aren't Vegas. He already waived his NMC to be exposed in the draft.
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                          1 mars 2018 à 16 h 7
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                          Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
                          Real life prices are more than double what prices on here are. Look at what Rick Nash got in real life and then look at his trade for Bouwmeester on here.... a lot different type of package.

                          I will not go as high as a 2018 1st + Spooner for Simmonds. I could do some other type of package but I'm not going to burn 2 really quality assets for a 1 and a 4th year rental that I wouldn't afford in 2019-2020 because of McAvoy, Heinen and Carlo needing to be signed.

                          Who do you think is more valuable Torey Krug or Wayne Simmonds? Just for reference in case I pick up another LHD I might be able to move him.


                          I mean tbf... the Nash deal was in two parts... part 2 should be coming soon
                          1 mars 2018 à 16 h 48
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                          Quoting: jmac490
                          I mean tbf... the Nash deal was in two parts... part 2 should be coming soon


                          I find that managers and power rankers in this game over value draft picks. The reality is that late first round picks only have about a 25% success rate of becoming a top 6 forward or a top 4 defenceman.
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                          1 mars 2018 à 17 h 51
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                          Quoting: TrueNorth
                          Wayne Simmonds is a more complete player. The way we are doing UFAs now, you would be able to sign a top 15 LW at fair market value. I would doubt that either of us would let an asset like Simmonds walk. I'm fine keeping him and seeing what I can resign him for after the 2018-19 season.


                          I think you absolutely love Simmonds which isn't bad, he's a good guy and very likable. I'll stop trying to get him. If you won't take a 20min defender who's outscoring him in real life for a guy who scores about 2 per 60 that would end up around 15 mins on your roster if it was a real team based on where he's slotted. He'd be a 41 point scorer and you have another 3rd line RW already on your roster to replace him in Armia if you moved Simmonds. When I look at your 2nd pair LHD I see a cap dump. Torey Krug has 39 Points in 57 games and plays 20 quality minutes a night. He's above average defensively at 5 on 5 as well, he just can't PK for crap. I think Krug makes your team better than Simmonds based on what would happen to your other players if the trade was made. Enstrom = #6D Armia = scoring line forward imo who can produce with limited ice time.
                          2 mars 2018 à 15 h 22
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                          Scheifele and armia for vrana and backstrom
                          Or
                          Ehlers for vrana and pick
                          2 mars 2018 à 15 h 47
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                          Quoting: Math
                          Scheifele and armia for vrana and backstrom
                          Or
                          Ehlers for vrana and pick


                          I think our valuations differ significantly. I must be a homer but I feel the gap between Ehlers and Vrana far exceeds a pick. Had you offered Vrana for Armia, that is a conversation piece.
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                          4 mars 2018 à 0 h 59
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                          I don't like Enstom at all in the deal you offered me. I think I'll keep Spooner, he fits better with my team long term than Simmonds as Spooner can be signed for half the price and I'm very constricted in cap when McAvoy, Carlo and Heinen gets raises soon. I think the way Spooner is playing he'd be the best "rental" I could have. 7 points in 3 games can't really be argued with.
                          7 mars 2018 à 9 h 26
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                          Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
                          I don't like Enstom at all in the deal you offered me. I think I'll keep Spooner, he fits better with my team long term than Simmonds as Spooner can be signed for half the price and I'm very constricted in cap when McAvoy, Carlo and Heinen gets raises soon. I think the way Spooner is playing he'd be the best "rental" I could have. 7 points in 3 games can't really be argued with.


                          I have build this team to be hard to play against. The opposing coaches would be faced with some major matchup headaches and I like collecting players that have a reputation of being difficult to play against. Any lineup that has the physicality of Byfuglien, Simmonds, Zadorov and Lowry paired with the size, skill and speed of this team will not be one that you wake up looking forward to play.
                          8 mars 2018 à 19 h 8
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                          14 mars 2018 à 1 h 22
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