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My Idea On Boedker

Créé par: Sqm918
Équipe: 2015-16 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2015
Publié: 26 nov. 2015
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2371 400 000 $69 020 208 $0 $3 320 000 $2 379 792 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 10
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
853 333 $853 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
692 500 $692 500 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
UFA - 1
600 000 $600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
761 250 $761 250 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 130 625 $1 130 625 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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26 nov. 2015 à 17 h 58
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Lets look at the trade. One of top forwards for rebuilding Arizona, two young good inexpensive NHLers for upcoming UFA, a NHL/AHLer and a 3rd liner RW. Well at least Scuds wasn't included.
26 nov. 2015 à 19 h 13
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Modifié 28 nov. 2015 à 10 h 39 par Banks
Quoting: Sqm918
You might as well stop commentating on my rosters


I'm not undervaluing players.....It's you in this scenario that has completely undervalued Boedker, Murphy and Rieder.
But I can comment on your rosters.....
26 nov. 2015 à 19 h 48
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Modifié 28 nov. 2015 à 10 h 40 par Banks
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I'm not undervaluing players.....It's you in this scenario that has completely undervalued Boedker, Murphy and Rieder. My credibility? I might often say dumb shit, but since you can't hear me, how would you know?
But I can comment on your rosters..


I'm not undervaluing Boedker. He is very good, but he isn't Ovechkin. Don't kid yourself. I'm not saying Perron is better than Boedker because he isn't. I'm not saying Bennett is better than Reider because he isn't, but u are truly clueless if u honestly think that Murphy is better than Pouliot. Pouliot is a very good prospect defensemen and he will thrive in the NHL if he ever gets a fucking chance. He struggled in the preseason and he hasn't gotten much playing time prior to that and that's likely why you are calling him an NHL/AHLer. Murphy is not more valuable than Pouliot. Honestly think Pouliot is better. Pouliot hasn't been given an opportunity because Johnston is a clueless assclown who doesn't know how to coach this team. He prefers to play those shitty defensemen in Scuds and Loveboy. Hopefully soon he will be given a chance.
26 nov. 2015 à 22 h 11
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Modifié 28 nov. 2015 à 10 h 40 par Banks
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Quoting: palhal


I'm not undervaluing players.....It's you in this scenario that has completely undervalued Boedker, Murphy and Rieder. My credibility? I might often say dumb shit, but since you can't hear me, how would you know?
But I can comment on your rosters..


I'm not undervaluing Boedker. He is very good, but he isn't Ovechkin. Don't kid yourself. I'm not saying Perron is better than Boedker because he isn't. I'm not saying Bennett is better than Reider because he isn't, but u are truly clueless if u honestly think that Murphy is better than Pouliot. Pouliot is a very good prospect defensemen and he will thrive in the NHL if he ever gets a fucking chance. He struggled in the preseason and he hasn't gotten much playing time prior to that and that's likely why you are calling him an NHL/AHLer. Murphy is not more valuable than Pouliot. Honestly think Pouliot is better. Pouliot hasn't been given an opportunity because Johnston is a clueless assclown who doesn't know how to coach this team. He prefers to play those shitty defensemen in Scuds and Loveboy. Hopefully soon he will be given a chance.


I'm not sure in what vain palhal was saying Pouliot is an NHL/AHLer but he's technically not wrong or putting him down depending on how its said if you think about it. Regarding the Pouliot/Murphy debate, I've watched them both and they seem to be quality players/prospects although Murphy is farther along then Pouliot and is way more NHL ready. Skill/talent wise? Pouliot takes it hands down for sure. Overall defense-wise, Murphy is light years ahead of Pouliot. I'm not sure where this over confidence that "Pouliot is way better" is coming from? Maybe a little Pens-bias?

Ultimately, its way too early to tell. They may both end up being 5-6th d-men.....

As for the rest of the deal, palhal is pretty spot on. Boedker is an RFA which right there gives the team way more leverage compared to the UFA Perron who just based off of this season, has lost a lot of value. Forget being able to get what you paid for him from Edm last year, this year at the deadline. He won't get you a 1st rounder and a prospect anymore, his value has dropped enough that teams should be pretty desperate to pony up high picks for a guy who can't get his act together on a good team and is a UFA at the end of the year to boot. Rieder vs Bennett is a toss up. Bennett is the higher rated prospect but he's also been given way more opportunity to succeed and hasn't lived up to the hype or got injured. Rieder although the lesser known player, has steadily improved every year and hasn't played with even close to the calibre players Beau has. But let's not kid ourselves he probably has a shorter ceiling compared to Bennett.

On paper, the trade looks even enough. In reality, I wouldn't do it if I were Arizona.

Also, if you don't want people commenting on your roster, maybe I don't know.....don't publish it. If you do, don't be surprised if people tell your their opinions whether their absolutely crazy or not.
26 nov. 2015 à 23 h 32
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Thanks Marco....especially your last phrase, "whether they're absolutely crazy or not". Hey, you're talking about me.cry
27 nov. 2015 à 12 h 22
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Thanks Marco...for agreeing that the trade is fair. But maybe you should actually read my comments. Nowhere in there does it say that I don't want anyone to comment on my rosters...just palhal because I feel I get dumber when I read his comments. You like a few others on this site don't think before commenting and make yourself sound foolish. Just actually read. Not complex. Pretty simple actually.


Ugghh..............I was generalizing sqm918, as in if you don't want "people" (in this case palhal) commenting, don't post the roster to the internet where "people" (in this case palhal) are allowed to comment on it. If reading makes you dumber, maybe you should seek medical help.....

Is that simple enough for you to understand.

"You like a few others on this site don't think before commenting and make yourself sound foolish" - Maybe you should take your own advice on this one?
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27 nov. 2015 à 18 h 0
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Modifié 28 nov. 2015 à 10 h 42 par Banks
Can't speak for palhal here but I haven't the slightest clue what your getting at? Anyhow in times likes these I've realised it's just easier to smile and nod. Well done!
28 nov. 2015 à 10 h 42
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No flaming eachother.
 
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