SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Ullmark

Créé par: Wingsfannnnn91
Équipe: 2024-25 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2024
Publié: 23 juin 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Been seeing rumours for ullmark to Detroit? What would the likely cost be ? I don’t like this at all , what’s the point of having Cossa who’s likely a year away and Augustine in the pipeline?

Rather pay the lesser cost for a Gibson than what I assume would be expensive for ullmark, especially trading with a team in our division. Zero interest dealing a 1st++

So what would it cost from the wings likely?
Transactions
BOS
  1. Berggren, Jonatan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Would that even be enough? I assume the cap space for the bruins would be even more important and would allow them to get a lindholm

I’d rather keep Berggren and have zero interest dealing a 1st for a goalie. Won’t matter who’s in nets if our defence isn’t fixed. And like I mentioned above we have Cossa who’s close and Augustine in the pipeline
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DAL
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de NJD
2025
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de BOS
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de STL
2026
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1488 000 000 $63 632 640 $0 $0 $24 367 360 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
23 juin à 18 h 21
#1
Joe
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2022
Messages: 7,896
Mentions "j'aime": 5,726
Not only is this not enough, Ottawa is gonna pay probably double what Ullmark is worth.
MoSeider53 a aimé ceci.
23 juin à 18 h 25
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 4
Mentions "j'aime": 0
Agree with your take. Wings would be much better off going for Gibson rather than Ullmark. Would be cheaper + fits the timeline better for Cossa and Augustine. A home run would be Anaheim retaining 2 mil of Gibson for Husso and a 2nd + one of our B-tier prospects.
23 juin à 18 h 32
#3
Colby
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2024
Messages: 726
Mentions "j'aime": 166
boston has plenty of cap, seems to be this stigma that boston is in need for cap. they have 20m rn, sway is 7ish heinen is 1.25ish and everyone else is dirt cheap. they will have easily 7-8m in cap space to make a run at lindholm. Jake DB is most likely gone or signing a cheap deal and staying.
Ullarm value starts with 1st +. not sure if hes a great fit with ur 2 younug kids comming up but he might if he holds his value and gives a good #1 goalie while either of them come up and start taking time.
23 juin à 18 h 34
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 20,261
Mentions "j'aime": 9,053
Not enough. No 1st no Ullmark for starters and JB is not much interest to Boston either.
23 juin à 18 h 39
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 734
Mentions "j'aime": 190
not close ullmark waiveto ottawa reds sux until they stevy.y
23 juin à 19 h 10
#6
Pop Pop
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 15,046
Mentions "j'aime": 8,492
Cossa playing NHL games is different from Cossa being a high end goalie. Cossa isn't a reason not to add a goalie
23 juin à 19 h 37
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2023
Messages: 5,595
Mentions "j'aime": 1,885
15th for Ullmark straight up. maybe willing to take Maata as a cap dump to help facilitate it.

How is Gibson a better fit? The guy hasn’t been a positive in goal this decade.
23 juin à 20 h 2
#8
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: Jfstompers
Cossa playing NHL games is different from Cossa being a high end goalie. Cossa isn't a reason not to add a goalie


Then why waste a 15th overall pick + the assets to move up for the guy ? Now we have to deal another 1st ++ for another guy in his 30s who’ll want big money? Ya hard pass on ullmark for me man . Zero interest , like I said above fixing our defence should be our #1 priority. Rather go with Gibson/Lyon for a year and then Gibson/Cossa for 2
23 juin à 20 h 4
#9
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: Celtics21
15th for Ullmark straight up. maybe willing to take Maata as a cap dump to help facilitate it.

How is Gibson a better fit? The guy hasn’t been a positive in goal this decade.


Before the last 2 years he was above 900 rather take him on than give ullmark another 5 year deal till he’s 36+ we have 2 high end goalie prospects in our pipeline and one is another season away . I’d be pissed if we dealt the 15th pick, should be a high end forward there we also need
23 juin à 20 h 7
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2023
Messages: 5,595
Mentions "j'aime": 1,885
Quoting: Wingsfannnnn91
Before the last 2 years he was above 900 rather take him on than give ullmark another 5 year deal till he’s 36+ we have 2 high end goalie prospects in our pipeline and one is another season away . I’d be pissed if we dealt the 15th pick, should be a high end forward there we also need


Gibson hasn’t had a positive GsaX since 2018-2019.

Be surprised if high end forwards fall to 15.
23 juin à 21 h 57
#11
Pop Pop
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 15,046
Mentions "j'aime": 8,492
Quoting: Wingsfannnnn91
Then why waste a 15th overall pick + the assets to move up for the guy ? Now we have to deal another 1st ++ for another guy in his 30s who’ll want big money? Ya hard pass on ullmark for me man . Zero interest , like I said above fixing our defence should be our #1 priority. Rather go with Gibson/Lyon for a year and then Gibson/Cossa for 2


I don't get the love for gibson.Gibson costs 6.4 for 3 more years might as well get ullmark he's just better. Cossa is a great prospect but until he's here and looks the part you can't just assume especially with a goalie.
23 juin à 23 h 47
#12
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: Celtics21
Gibson hasn’t had a positive GsaX since 2018-2019.

Be surprised if high end forwards fall to 15.


Ducks also weren’t very good, rather take a chance on him than pay a higher price for a guy who’ll want a longterm deal when we have 2 guys coming up and he’s not even a clear #1. He’s always been a tandem guy

I think we can get a good prospect at 15 this year . Think there’s a good shot 7-8 dmen are picked before so we can draft the 6th or 7th forward to come out this draft
23 juin à 23 h 54
#13
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: Jfstompers
I don't get the love for gibson.Gibson costs 6.4 for 3 more years might as well get ullmark he's just better. Cossa is a great prospect but until he's here and looks the part you can't just assume especially with a goalie.


It’s not love for Gibson I just rather pay the lesser cost and have him for only 3 years . Ullmark will probably want another 5 years which means we’d have him till 36. Ullmark has always been a tandem goalie and never #1. Gibson has been on a bad ducks team last few years ... yes we can never assume with goalies but we spent a 15th pick + extra assets to move up to get him , why waste another 1st + for another guy when Cossa is a year off?

Sorry got zero interest in trading a top 15 pick ++ and extending a tandem guy till he’s 36 . Let’s not forget bruins team is a lot better than ours. I think our main goal should be fixing that d core. Whoever’s in nets will fail otherwise
24 juin à 0 h 7
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2024
Messages: 1,114
Mentions "j'aime": 557
Quoting: Wingsfannnnn91
Ducks also weren’t very good, rather take a chance on him than pay a higher price for a guy who’ll want a longterm deal when we have 2 guys coming up and he’s not even a clear #1. He’s always been a tandem guy

I think we can get a good prospect at 15 this year . Think there’s a good shot 7-8 dmen are picked before so we can draft the 6th or 7th forward to come out this draft


"Gibson is bad because Anaheim's defense sucks" isn't a great justification for grabbing him considering our defense sucks too.

As for the draft, it's pretty rancid this year. Detroit would almost be farther ahead to trade up and get in the upper tier or trade down and grab another asset and still pick in the same tier of players.

Honestly, I'd trade 15 for McGroarty straight up in a heart beat.
24 juin à 0 h 29
#15
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: FriendlyGhost
"Gibson is bad because Anaheim's defense sucks" isn't a great justification for grabbing him considering our defense sucks too.

As for the draft, it's pretty rancid this year. Detroit would almost be farther ahead to trade up and get in the upper tier or trade down and grab another asset and still pick in the same tier of players.

Honestly, I'd trade 15 for McGroarty straight up in a heart beat.


Like I said none of these goalies will do anything if we bring back the same d core. Look at the bruins roster and ours ? Ullmark wouldn’t change anything and would likely have t be kept for 6 years instead of 3 for Gibson.

I think we can get someone good at 15 with all the dmen selected prior. If anything we can always move from 15 to 12 for like an eiserman. I know a lot of ppl complain he sucks and will be the next zadina but I don’t think every goal scorer is destined to fail and I think a potential line of eiserman larkin raymond could be a great one.

Connelly has huge upside and I’d take him if he’s there, what’s the point of drafting these locker room leaders like kasper danielson etc.. if we can’t surround someone like Connelly with these guys to help him. He’s still 17 not a 30 year old with no hope of turning things around . What if catton drops? .. think someone good can be there . Like mcgroarty but rather deal the 2025 first top 10 protected obviously ... with our luck he wants to only play in Detroit and the jets will have no leverage
24 juin à 0 h 39
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2024
Messages: 1,114
Mentions "j'aime": 557
Quoting: Wingsfannnnn91
Like I said none of these goalies will do anything if we bring back the same d core. Look at the bruins roster and ours ? Ullmark wouldn’t change anything and would likely have t be kept for 6 years instead of 3 for Gibson.

I think we can get someone good at 15 with all the dmen selected prior. If anything we can always move from 15 to 12 for like an eiserman. I know a lot of ppl complain he sucks and will be the next zadina but I don’t think every goal scorer is destined to fail and I think a potential line of eiserman larkin raymond could be a great one.

Connelly has huge upside and I’d take him if he’s there, what’s the point of drafting these locker room leaders like kasper danielson etc.. if we can’t surround someone like Connelly with these guys to help him. He’s still 17 not a 30 year old with no hope of turning things around . What if catton drops? .. think someone good can be there . Like mcgroarty but rather deal the 2025 first top 10 protected obviously ... with our luck he wants to only play in Detroit and the jets will have no leverage


I'm not saying I wouldn't draft Connelly. Or a handful of other guys there.

But I'd trade the pick for McGroarty over any of them in a heart beat. Draftees are draftees. McGroarty is already panning out as a prospect, fills a need as a bulkier winger, and is way closer to being NHL ready than anybody we'd get at 15th.
24 juin à 7 h 15
#17
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2024
Messages: 84
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: FriendlyGhost
I'm not saying I wouldn't draft Connelly. Or a handful of other guys there.

But I'd trade the pick for McGroarty over any of them in a heart beat. Draftees are draftees. McGroarty is already panning out as a prospect, fills a need as a bulkier winger, and is way closer to being NHL ready than anybody we'd get at 15th.


I’m interested in mcgroarty, id just try to get the 2025 pick on the table instead . Apparently mcgroarty is pissed cause he wanted to play this season in the nhl ... if that’s the case I don’t know how much Yzerman will be in on this ? Can’t imagine him liking someone demanding to be up on the wings
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage