The number of leaf fans who want to see a defence core that can't move the puck beyond Rielly is astonishing

They just need to be able to make the first pass out of the dzone. Tired of Dubas' guys being "pick movers" then not playing defense in the dzone. Defense comes first.

I don't think the leafs dont have the cap to sign a transitional puck mover unless you sub Lily for Borgden

Montour should be their #1 target. And they should keep Liljegren and Timmins and see how they play under a better coach. Keefe's system often had defenceman taking too many risks at the oppositions Blueline. Berube is a more north south coach instead of the east west of Keefe.

Seattle's not going to take that deal. There's no reason for them to trade Borgen to backfill depth roles, which can be easily filled internally or via free agency, by creating a hole at their #2 RHD spot, which would be much harder to fill.

I agree I wouldn't be mad with that, but based on my team's I obviously prefer a more defensive and physical minded team than lily and Timmins haha

You can't find the guys traded at this cap hit though. Timmins is going to be a 80point all star in Seattle!

What do you think the price is for Borgden

The Leafs get essentially no offence from the Blueline apart from Rielly and Liljegren (when Keefe had no choice but to play him). That is an absolute necessity next year, they need at least 1 more puck mover. Preferably Montour who is physical and a terrific skater. I would be happy with either Roy or Pesce as well and I wouldn't spend any money on forwards this year. Maybe Domi if he comes in at under 5 for 4 years or less.

Getting more stay at home guys will further nullify the skill and speed the team has up front.

I'd like Joshua and Domi, I think Joshua can be a cheaper replacement for bertuzzi. I watched a lot of Canucks and he was their TEAMS x factor outside the JT Miller, Brock, Quinn. He's the reason they had depth. Guy drove that line and they really felt it when he was hurt. I feel like hed be amazing on the leafs top 6. Would ensure no one gets bullied too.

Domi works and I think their is mutual interest. I think he passes too much but has great potential if a coach can push him in the right direction.

Skinner at a minimum would be a no brainer ... No? 50 point guy with over a ppg ceiling? Imagine him on a line with Mitch or Domi? 2 great set up men with am34 and Skinner? Would be great on the second Pp too.

I just love McBain and think he's Adam Lowry but younger. Would be elated if he lock up the 3c for the time being.

I agree I like Montour but boy is he struggling this series.

I disagree though with your last point. All they need to do is make the first pass. The skill and speed up front can be advantageous after that. You don't need the Blueline back to the redline breakout, there are ways around that.

A puck mover is nice, but I guess my point is that the Leafs troubles have never been offense. A puck mover isn't a problem. It's always the Dmen playing poorly. Albeit Boston really highlighted the puck movement problem.

I'd imagine just keeping lily instead of Borgden would be sufficient. Rielly is always exposed for poor D and I think needs someone like pesce to make that top line legitimate. Montour would be great but I don't think you can pair those two together. Who do you put Montour with? McCabe? Benoit?