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Zegras is not good

Créé par: Jake_Defranchise
Équipe: 2024-25 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 11 juin 2024
Publié: 11 juin 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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32 000 000 $
36 250 000 $
18 000 000 $
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BOS
  1. Zegras, Trevor
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Does this get a trade done? No. ANA prolly gets a better offer from a team that isn't worried as much about winning, and more about selling tickets in a smaller market (Utah, maybe?) Also, I think its fair to say that the league just doesn't believe in Zegras.

As for this trade, this is the most I would be okay with Don moving for him without immediately calling for his firing. In my opinion, Zacha is a better player, and just a bit older. Lysell is likely not making it in our system, so its fine moving him.

This trade still sucks for Boston, though. We shouldn't consider Zegras at all. He is not a good player. He is Patrick Kane with half the offense and the same level of ineptitude on the forecheck and defense. Zegras is a circus clown who is a net negative on the ice. His ceiling is an offensive 2nd line wing who needs defensive linemates to cover up for him. We already have a more well-rounded version of that in Zacha. I really cannot stand Bruins and Ducks fans who overvalue Zegras or even think there is any fit in Boston. Zegras is the opposite of what makes a good Bruin. Just send him to Utah.
ANA
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Zacha, Pavel
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Pat Verbeek wire transfers Sweeney $1,500,000 into his personal checking account.
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BOS
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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11 juin à 17 h 5
#26
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Quoting: Jded
“Zacha is better in every aspect of the game”

Pt/g: Zegras 0.73 > 0.54
G/g: Zegras 0.26 > 0.20
EV pt/g: Zegras 0.56 > 0.39
Rel/Corsi: Zegras +13.6 > +2.5
EV Rel Corsi: Zegras +5.6 > +0.4
Rel/Fenwick: Zegras +12.2 > +2.5
EV Rel Fenwick: Zegras +4.5 > +0.4
Age: Zegras 23 > 27
Contract situation: Zegras 2x$5.75M ending RFA > 3x$4.75M ending UFA

“Zegras is worth a second-round pick”

#2nd rounders in Zegras’ draft year with over 90 NHL points: 0 (Zegras 154)

There are absolutely things Zacha does better that you could focus on, like faceoffs, blocked shots, hits, takeaways. But saying things definitively that are just so clearly untrue hurts your credibility quite a bit and makes it hard to trust that you even believe the opinions your saying.

Even your quoting of Zegras’ best season vs Zacha’s last season is misleading. Last season was Zacha’s best. It also doesn’t account for a way larger sample of seasons, especially in prime years for Zacha. At Zegras’ age, Zacha’s best season was 17-18-35.

Look, I like Zacha. But I don’t see why ANA or BOS would do this, and frankly I’d be very surprised if you’ve actually watched much of Zegras for yourself, especially recently. Seems like a lot of your opinion is just repeating a few media opinions of him rather than sharing your own. I get why, ANA sucks and plays west coast hours. But you should humble yourself in how you state your case if you aren’t actually that familiar with his game. I’d honestly love for you to watch any one of his last 8 games of last year and circle back with a take of your own. I think you might have a different tune 🤷‍♂️


Quoting: OldNYIfan
Since Trevor Zegras broke into the League, he has recorded 154 points playing with a team which some subtle indications suggest was not as good a team as Boston. In those four seasons, exactly four Bruins have recorded more points; three of them are Hall of Famers and the fourth, Charlie Coyle, has taken 86 -- yes, eighty-six -- more games to score a massive 11 more points. So no one on your team other than your three Hall of Famers has a higher PPG average than Zegras. And since one of your Hall of Famers has now retired, Zegras' ceiling is on your top line.


Quoting: GoodGuyGudas
“Zegras isn’t good”
*continues to make a mock trade for him*


Quoting: knowerofpuck
This website is truly incredible. I'll miss reading stuff like this.


Quoting: Jah1722
Why do you make things up about a player you don’t know or watch?


Quoting: Jah1722
Why do you make things up about a player you don’t know or watch?



I sincerely hope that this website is still around after Zegras goes for a 2nd + a mediocre prospect. I really do.
11 juin à 17 h 10
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I sincerely hope that this website is still around after Zegras goes for a 2nd + a mediocre prospect. I really do.


Disappointed, honestly. Boston hockey fans typically know ball. Your representation in this thread is really a letdown. Wish you well in your trolling though I guess
OldNYIfan et knowerofpuck a aimé ceci.
11 juin à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I sincerely hope that this website is still around after Zegras goes for a 2nd + a mediocre prospect. I really do.

It's far more likely that Boston will trade Matthew Poitras for a second and a mediocre prospect than that Anaheim will trade Zegras for such a package, and your assertion that the Ducks might do so is a telling self-own on the level of your hockey sophistication.
11 juin à 17 h 36
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
It's far more likely that Boston will trade Matthew Poitras for a second and a mediocre prospect than that Anaheim will trade Zegras for such a package, and your assertion that the Ducks might do so is a telling self-own on the level of your hockey sophistication.


Quoting: Jded
Disappointed, honestly. Boston hockey fans typically know ball. Your representation in this thread is really a letdown. Wish you well in your trolling though I guess


Quoting: OldNYIfan
It's far more likely that Boston will trade Matthew Poitras for a second and a mediocre prospect than that Anaheim will trade Zegras for such a package, and your assertion that the Ducks might do so is a telling self-own on the level of your hockey sophistication.


I've been clowned countless times on this website. I've been wrong very few times. We'll see how this ages, though.
11 juin à 17 h 40
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I've been clowned countless times on this website. I've been wrong very few times. We'll see how this ages, though.


The first thing you’ve said that I actually believe to be true. I have zero doubt that you’ve been clowned countless times
11 juin à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I sincerely hope that this website is still around after Zegras goes for a 2nd + a mediocre prospect. I really do.


I sincerely hope this site is still around to after the Bruins choke to the Florida Panthers in playoffs again
11 juin à 21 h 42
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Quoting: Jake_Defranchise
I sincerely hope that this website is still around after Zegras goes for a 2nd + a mediocre prospect. I really do.


If he goes for that low it won’t be for a few years so the site won’t be around.
12 juin à 14 h 18
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Quoting: GoodGuyGudas
I sincerely hope this site is still around to after the Bruins choke to the Florida Panthers in playoffs again


I sincerely hope this site is still around after the Ducks get relocated.
12 juin à 14 h 35
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Who else you adding to the Devils deal? LOL your not getting the 10th for Ullmark. YOur not even getting the 10th for retain on markstorm. 10th for Saros MAYBE( he may be good but he has his negatives which is small athletic doesnt mean good)
 
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