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Trading Marner to a division rival

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2 juin à 12 h 46
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Ottawa definitely considers this
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Ottawa definitely considers this


That Batherson contract is beautiful
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That Batherson contract is beautiful


It really is
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Ottawa definitely considers this


OTT dont even consider this, marner playing with mathews is a 100 PTS player, Bath playing on a loosing team is a 65-70 point player, on a winning teams he is a 80-85 point player. Marner in OTT would struggle to reach 90 points for 2.5 times the salary Bath makes.
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OTT dont even consider this, marner playing with mathews is a 100 PTS player, Bath playing on a loosing team is a 65-70 point player, on a winning teams he is a 80-85 point player. Marner in OTT would struggle to reach 90 points for 2.5 times the salary Bath makes.


Batherson wasn’t playing with bums lol, winning or losing team doesn’t matter. I think Tkachuk - Stu - Marner would throw up 100 points with ease and might be the best line in the league.
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OTT dont even consider this, marner playing with mathews is a 100 PTS player, Bath playing on a loosing team is a 65-70 point player, on a winning teams he is a 80-85 point player. Marner in OTT would struggle to reach 90 points for 2.5 times the salary Bath makes.


there is way more to mitch’s game than just points lol
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Another - in a long line of - preposterous take(s).
1/ Leafs don’t trade him to a division rival
2/ Marner declines - how does playing for small market, perennial playoff missers hold any interest
3/ Leafs decline - that return is horrible
2 juin à 13 h 13
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Another - in a long line of - preposterous take(s).
1/ Leafs don’t trade him to a division rival
2/ Marner declines - how does playing for small market, perennial playoff missers hold any interest
3/ Leafs decline - that return is horrible



1/ Valid
2/ not impossible, I think he could be sold on still playing close to home and some of Ottawas players
3/ Please explain how that return is horrible. A big playmaking winger on a great contract and a legit top pair dman? Again you fail to show me examples of the insane returns we’re getting.
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Quoting: Borocop
there is way more to mitch’s game than just points lol


rofl, for 2.5 times what Bath makes w/e little h brings that Bath dont it aint worth the difference
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Batherson wasn’t playing with bums lol, winning or losing team doesn’t matter. I think Tkachuk - Stu - Marner would throw up 100 points with ease and might be the best line in the league.


it does matter, 10-20 points swing sometimes more from a loosing team to a winning team.
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rofl, for 2.5 times what Bath makes w/e little h brings that Bath dont it aint worth the difference


batherson is on a nice contract but he is a scorer and only a scorer. You can run a #1 PP though mitch and he’s going to play on the 1st unit PK.

Batherson at 5 million is probably more valuable to a true right-now contender than it is to us (because we’re not going to do anything while he’s this cheap), if you can trade him for an upgrade then you do
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1/ Valid
2/ not impossible, I think he could be sold on still playing close to home and some of Ottawas players
3/ Please explain how that return is horrible. A big playmaking winger on a great contract and a legit top pair dman? Again you fail to show me examples of the insane returns we’re getting.


Marner gets sold on what exactly? They’ve missed the playoffs seven straight years; no one on the SENs comes close to Matthews or Nylander. Like come on, use your 🧠

We disagree on Batherson - good year last year but crap the year before, he doesn’t move the needle in anyway. And Chycrun is a pending UFA (one year rental) and plays LHD which we don’t need.
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batherson is on a nice contract but he is a scorer and only a scorer. You can run a #1 PP though mitch and he’s going to play on the 1st unit PK.

Batherson at 5 million is probably more valuable to a true right-now contender than it is to us (because we’re not going to do anything while he’s this cheap), if you can trade him for an upgrade then you do


would not trade Joseph for Mitch, OTT would have ZERO interest in Mitch and his 12-13M contract. oh and BTW defense can be taught/learned, offence cannot, Bath with the right coaching can learn to become a good defender along with his scoring. for 2.5 times the price pass on marner he aint worth the cost compared to Bath.

oh and BTW incase your blind, OTT is already up against the dam cap, they need Baths 5M contract to be able to afford depth players
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Rather just wait a year and sign chychrun.
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would not trade Joseph for Mitch, OTT would have ZERO interest in Mitch and his 12-13M contract. oh and BTW defense can be taught/learned, offence cannot, Bath with the right coaching can learn to become a good defender along with his scoring. for 2.5 times the price pass on marner he aint worth the cost compared to Bath.


Everything you are saying about batherson “with regards to learning and coaching” i could say about marner too, it’s all baseless prospective points.

They are the same age. Mitch has been a better player literally every single season by a substantial margin. He’s going to be paid 12 million, because he is a 12 million dollar player.

Everything you’re saying about batherson is all theoretical, but the outcomes are based in actuality. And the actuality is that mitch is way better than batherson.
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Quoting: MitchJr
Marner gets sold on what exactly? They’ve missed the playoffs seven straight years; no one on the SENs comes close to Matthews or Nylander. Like come on, use your 🧠

We disagree on Batherson - good year last year but crap the year before, he doesn’t move the needle in anyway. And Chycrun is a pending UFA (one year rental) and plays LHD which we don’t need.
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Yeah that streak sounds a lot like our playoff exit streak, Mitch still wants to play here. Ottawas young talent sure beats some of the other rumoured teams like Seattle and Utah. I’m sure Mitch wouldn’t mind playing on a line with Stu and Tkachuk. Just because your cap friendly name has Marner in it doesn’t mean you know who he is and isn’t going to waive for.

Batherson is on a value contract with term, which is exactly what we need. His play style fits perfect along either JT or Matthews. Yeah Chychrun is a pending UFA, you know what else comes off the books at that time? JTs contract. The leafs are linked to a number of LD that’s just not true.

Like come on use your 🧠
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oh and BTW incase your blind, OTT is already up against the dam cap, they need Baths 5M contract to be able to afford depth players


we could use a true superstar forward more than a bunch of depth guys. Batherson and chychrun going the other way makes the cap about even for next season so that’s not even a good point lmao. If you can’t plan around a potential 2 million dollar raise then idk.
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Everything you are saying about batherson “with regards to learning and coaching” i could say about marner too, it’s all baseless prospective points.

They are the same age. Mitch has been a better player literally every single season by a substantial margin. He’s going to be paid 12 million, because he is a 12 million dollar player.

Everything you’re saying about batherson is all theoretical, but the outcomes are based in actuality. And the actuality is that mitch is way better than batherson.


rofl Marner aint worth 12M, he aint worth what hes making now, Depth wins cups and that is why TOR has not even gotten a wiff in the Mathews/Marner/Nylander era, Marner is NOT a center piece player like Brady or Stu, hes a complementary player and those you dont pay 12M.

Bath is more valuable to OTT and to TOR than Marner would is/would be do to his contract THAT is the reality of things, for the 12M marner makes TOR or OTT can have 2 player that combines will put up over 160 points and help much much more their team win than a 12M marner, THAT is reality.
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we could use a true superstar forward more than a bunch of depth guys. Batherson and chychrun going the other way makes the cap about even for next season so that’s not even a good point lmao. If you can’t plan around a potential 2 million dollar raise then idk.


rofl marner is not a superstar.
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rofl Marner aint worth 12M, he aint worth what hes making now, Depth wins cups and that is why TOR has not even gotten a wiff in the Mathews/Marner/Nylander era, Marner is NOT a center piece player like Brady or Stu, hes a complementary player and those you dont pay 12M.

Bath is more valuable to OTT and to TOR than Marner would is/would be do to his contract THAT is the reality of things, for the 12M marner makes TOR or OTT can have 2 player that combines will put up over 160 points and help much much more their team win than a 12M marner, THAT is reality.


if you don’t think marner is on the same tier of player as tkachuk and stutzle then you need to get your head out of the sand and i’ll just leave it at that
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Jesus Christ 😂 if that’s the case the sens have 0 superstars
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if you don’t think marner is on the same tier of player as tkachuk and stutzle then you need to get your head out of the sand and i’ll just leave it at that


Brady will put his team on his back and drag them too wins, Marner will NEVER be able or do that, EVER. Stu has the Potential to do that.
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Brady will put his team on his back and drag them too wins, Marner will NEVER be able or do that, EVER. Stu has the Potential to do that.


Brady can’t even drag his team to the 8 seed. Let’s relax
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Brady will put his team on his back and drag them too wins, Marner will NEVER be able or do that, EVER. Stu has the Potential to do that.


we haven’t even made the playoffs with this core and we’re talking about this lmao 😂😂
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Brady can’t even drag his team to the 8 seed. Let’s relax


i aint talking about making the playoffs, last time i checked hockey is a TEAM sports with 21-23 players.
 
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