Holl is getting boughtout and Kasper isn't getting dealt. Detroit passes.

No thanks from Detroit, we aren't there yet.

in a vacuum, how does the value seem

I'm sure it's fine. Just wrong team. I don't think there would be extra value for Holl in such a big deal, bad cap always needs to go the other way.

1. No. Not now anyhow but maybe near the trade deadline next year.
2. Maybe just maybe but without retention.
3. Maybe at the deadline but not before the season even starts.
4. No. Too much quantity and not enough quality in the return. Kasper and Detroit's 2024 1st (15th OA) might get Andersson though. Edvinsson or Danielson + Carolina's 2024 1st (27th OA) probably does get him.

I think Kasper and the 2025 1st is fair. I think Conroy would want Detroit's 2024 1st and I don't see Yzerman giving one of those assets let alone both. Andersson would be nice but would he be good with playing in the 2nd pair and in 2 seasons he's going to want a lot of money and would probably price him out of Detroit.

Without Calgary taking back those contracts there is no way Detroit could make it work cap wise. Maatta will probably return a 4th and Holl is a cheap buyout. So you're taking the 2 players that Detroit will have no problem moving. Then you want a 2nd and a 5th for taking them, which is way more than it's worth to dump them. Especially when the trade hinges on Calgary taking on some cap to make it work.

I do agree with @Lancebmx Detroit really isn't the team for this trade.