I think all of these options have at least some form of possibility.
Lindholm is straightforward, not the ideal fit but he doesn't cost any assets aside from a slight overpay. He'd improve the team, but not enough to become a contender.
Necas, sounds like there were talks of an Ullmark to Carolina trade at the deadline, but maybe CAR didn't want to lose Necas this season. They are prioritizing Guentzel, so this seems like a good base of a trade.
Stamkos is likely hitting UFA, TB just doesn't have cap space. Part of me wonders if they're considering moving Cirelli to keep stamkos, either way seems like one of the two may be gone. Cirelli is another ok option. Good defensively which the bruins always look for.
Kadri is a sneaky one, his AAV isn't bad at all for his production, just the term is the issue. And CAL could potentially retain, even if it's just 1m or so. They're looking like they're entering a rebuild, and he's mentioned he doesn't want to be part of one. Probably wouldn't cost a whole ton since his contract isn't ideal, maybe Lohrei is a good return now that Hanifin is gone.
Dubois... high risk high reward here. I'm not a huge fan of this, but sounds like Sweeney has checked in on this one, so I'd say it's more likely than we think.
Stephenson is good, but to me is more of the same. We don't need another middle six center, so just seems redundant, and you'll have to overpay. I love the player, just not a need.
Monahan, same as Stephenson really. But maybe he doesn't get as big of a deal with his injury history. Another upside is he's two years younger. I'd still steer clear.
Duchene is probably the top offensive player here aside from Stamkos and Kadri, but probably not quite good enough for a temporary 1c fill in.
Zegras is the most intriguing player here to me, since he's actually young and has some upside. The problem is the... interesting... personality, no clue what the bruins think of that. Can't imagine they like it.
Karlsson is another sneaky option. Vegas needs to clear cap, and after acquiring Hertl, do they really need a 5m+ 3C? Something tells me there's a chance they move him, still unlikely, but enough for me to add him to this list.
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Congrats on being better positioned to win Corey Pronmans top prospect list and picking high every year for some reason.
I’ll take watching playoff and winning hockey rather than pursuing a subjective award.
It's the simple reality of where the teams are. The Ducks are neck deep in a rebuild and nothing I or you do is going to change that.
Go ahead and propose a Zegras for X trade with the Bruins that actually makes the Ducks a better team. One that is more likely to make the playoffs and less likely to win league's best pool. That is the goal as you so accurately pointed out.
Don't worry, your days of watching the draft lottery and having plenty of free time in May are coming quite soon.
Glad you guys have some great prospects, but they still need to pan out. Bruins have a great core and proved they are pretty good at rebuilding on the fly. Don't see why that will change.
Don't worry, your days of watching the draft lottery and having plenty of free time in May are coming quite soon.
We have a 28 year old franchise player on offense, a 26 year old franchise player on defense, and a 26 year old goaltender that just put up an incredible run in the playoffs (he’s still 3 goals up on GsaX for the playoffs with 2nd and 3rd playing).
We have the best record over the past two years. I love the ducks young talent, but don’t you have the worst record over the past two years? I get being excited about your young talent, but there is no reason to make an untrue statement. We have several players where Zegras isn’t even in the same stratosphere in terms of quality of player. Please don’t pretend like he is better than he is,
Go ahead and propose a Zegras for X trade with the Bruins that actually makes the Ducks a better team. One that is more likely to make the playoffs and less likely to win league's best pool. That is the goal as you so accurately pointed out.
I wouldn’t give what it would take to get him. Already said that. I believe his profile is better than the player is for winning hockey, but I haven’t watched him enough to see outside of the games with the Kings, the Bruins and the occasional game when I wanted to see what was up with this kid who got the cover of NHL 2k
I watched this year just to see McTavish, Carlsson, and Mintyukov because I really like those three players. View Zegras as more sizzle than substance.
Just get a tad annoyed when teams that aren’t good talk about how the Bruins don’t have talent to trade. There is a difference between not having talent and not having talent we’d trade you.
These seem like slight underpays, but the ratios are all accurate imo. The most appealing to me here is probably Stamkos. But Lindholm for 5 years I'd do, it's the 6-7 years that make it tricky for me. I just don't want to see the prime of mcavoy/pasta wasted because they don't have centers.
I believe these values are accurate if the player makes it past the first few days of free agency. Not all will. My guess is if they aren’t signed by end of week 1, it could be worse.
Lindholm is a great system fit and I believe the Bruins are going to pay a premium to get him
I believe these values are accurate if the player makes it past the first few days of free agency. Not all will. My guess is if they aren’t signed by end of week 1, it could be worse.
Lindholm is a great system fit and I believe the Bruins are going to pay a premium to get him
I feel like they could sign Lindholm to a more advantageous deal if they traded for his signing rights before Free Agency
I think he’s making 7 years between 7.25M minimum up to 8.5M. I think it will land between 7.5 and 8 probably closer to 8. The Athletic has him at 7 years, $7.935M
I’ll take things that never happened for 500, Alex!
Why would you want a 25 year old goaltender who’s been great the last two years and just came off a playoff where his GsaX of 13.3 in 12 games was utterly absurd. To give you context, John Gibson has passed that number in a season twice and one of those seasons was barely. He was a very good goaltender in his prime.
Not that it’s something Boston would entertain anyway. People speak all they want about goalie values. 3 of the 4 final teams have great goaltending
Why would you want a 25 year old goaltender who’s been great the last two years and just came off a playoff where his GsaX of 13.3 in 12 games was utterly absurd. To give you context, John Gibson has passed that number in a season twice and one of those seasons was barely. He was a very good goaltender in his prime.
Not that it’s something Boston would entertain anyway. People speak all they want about goalie values. 3 of the 4 final teams have great goaltending
Having a good goalie isn't fun/strategic, so fans underestimate their value. People are hyperfocused on skaters. But if you have a goalie that's saving half a goal to a goal a game, that's arguably more valuable than a <=40 or so goal scorer.
Why would you want a 25 year old goaltender who’s been great the last two years and just came off a playoff where his GsaX of 13.3 in 12 games was utterly absurd. To give you context, John Gibson has passed that number in a season twice and one of those seasons was barely. He was a very good goaltender in his prime.
Not that it’s something Boston would entertain anyway. People speak all they want about goalie values. 3 of the 4 final teams have great goaltending
Because we have Lukas Dostal for free..? He’s one of the best up and coming goalies in the league and just complete tore it up the Worlds. Swayman will cost an extremely high price and an extremely high contract extension. Meanwhile, Dostal won’t need a big pay day for a few more years.
It’s much more valuable for the Ducks to keep their path going with Dostal than completely throw off the process by trading for Swayman.
Because we have Lukas Dostal for free..? He’s one of the best up and coming goalies in the league and just complete tore it up the Worlds. Swayman will cost an extremely high price and an extremely high contract extension. Meanwhile, Dostal won’t need a big pay day for a few more years.
It’s much more valuable for the Ducks to keep their path going with Dostal than completely throw off the process by trading for Swayman.
His stat line and profile don’t say he’s what you say he is. That’s one of the frustrating aspects with young teams. A reasonable percentage of the high profile prospects are simply not good at the NHL level. It could be he’s not ready and he’ll just take time. The assumption that all young players hit is actually one of the bigger fallacies around
His stat line and profile don’t say he’s what you say he is. That’s one of the frustrating aspects with young teams. A reasonable percentage of the high profile prospects are simply not good at the NHL level. It could be he’s not ready and he’ll just take time. The assumption that all young players hit is actually one of the bigger fallacies around
100% agreed. People really tend to overvalue prospects, they assume their ceiling is their likely potential, and trading them away FEELS like they're trading a player that has already hit their potential. One of my favorite things to do to show this is to look up team prospect pool rankings from 6,7,8+ years ago, and see how wrong so many of them are. It's truly an eye opener.
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