Devils decline, please stop making these kampf - jarnkrok to new jersey without giving US assets trades

those are assets that keefe loves. He will want them.

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Doubt Keefe LOVES Jarnkrok and Kampf but even if he did the Devils would not be giving up good draft capital in exchange for 2 bad contracts

They arent bad contracts, its just leafs cant afford them.

Yet another pointless Brandt-Clarke-to-Toronto fantasy. Los Angeles isn't trading Brandt Clarke for the same reason that the Capitals aren't trading Ryan Leonard or the Rangers aren't trading Gabe Perreault or the Blues aren't trading Jimmy Snuggerud or the Sharks aren't trading Will Smith: teams don't trade their best prospect, especially when it creates a big hole where none was before.

Right. The leafs can’t afford them. Why should the devils help you out of a situation you put yourself in. Toronto will not receive a second round pick to get themselves out of a problem they put themselves in.

Devils fans clearly didn't watch many Leafs games.

Let me tell you about Keefe's love of Kampf.

Since joining the Toronto Maple Leafs Kampf has had the 5th most TOI of forwards in Toronto. He is literally the #1 forward that Keefe plays outside of the core 4. (Considering they all make $11M+, I think Keefe would say Kampf's $2.5M is a bargain).

He is:
#1 PK
#1 F 5v3
#1 C 3v3
#1 C D-Zone Draws
Plays the shift after almost every goal for
Plays the shift after almost every goal against
#1 in ice time when TOR lead by 1 goal for 2 of his 3 seasons in TOR

No leafs fan is trying to argue Kampf's value objectively. I think 99% of us know he's a high end 4C who should probably be getting $2M a year and playing way less than he does. What we are trying to explain is that this is a player that Keefe trusts and values way more than NJ fans could possibility imagine. I'd bet a significant reason that Kampf was signed the day after the Leafs announced Keefe would stay is because of Keefe. I also wouldn't be surprised if Keefe pushed HARD to get Kampf. If you just signed a new coach for $20M, I'm certain the team will sacrifice a 2nd + $2.5M in cap to get him a guy he feels is a key player in his bottom 6. Especially when NJ doesn't already have another similar player.

Jarnkrok is another version of Kampf. He's Keefe's fixer. Any line that isn't playing well, he takes the worst player off the line and replaces them with Jarnkrok.

So most Leaf fans will tell you with 100% certainty that if NJ could acquire these players for a 2nd and didn't that would likely cause a MAJOR rift between the coach and management.

He has averaged as high as 17:27 per game in a single playoff run. Not a single game, an average across the entire playoffs of 17:27 per game.

In the playoffs, he has a dZS% of 90.2% this year, not even his highest while playing for Keefe which was 92.2% in 2022.

That’s great. You can’t afford his salary. I’m not going to help you with that with a second round pick. Try the 2024 Colorado 5th rounder if you want us to take $4.5M off your hands and I’ll see how I feel.

Having worked with Keefer I wouldn't be surprised if NJ payed a 1st for these two players. He's a coach who plays favourites and these are two guys he relies on heavily that NJ has no equivalents of.

Any NJ fan who thinks this trade isn't realistic doesn't understand the game. It's really that simple.

A first round pick for those two is outrageous. That trade will not be happening. Why would I help you by taking salary off your hands. If you really want that for those players, they’ll be maple leafs at training camp.

Devils can get similar players in free agency without paying your absurd extortion rates.

Sheldon Keefe isn’t the GM.

So you are giving the Kings TWO RD for one that the Kings have an excess of? That makes a lot of sense.

The idea that Topi Niemela will ever replace Drew Doughty in any way completely exposes your utter lack of hockey intelligence. It reinforces the complete stupidity of the most ignorant statement ever made on CapFriendly about Los Angeles, which is that "The Kings biggest hole isn't at RD where they have Doughty (veteran), Spence (up and coming). It's at C where they have Kopitar (veteran), Danault (veteran), Dubois (cap dump), Byfield (better on the wing)."

Let me just google LA Kings biggest needs and see what comes up:

https://thehockeywriters.com/los-angeles-kings-free-agent-needs-2024/ - Agrees with me
https://hockeyroyalty.com/2024/05/02/la-kings-its-time-to-get-with-the-times/ - WOW they went as far as making the EXACT SAME argument I did that you can't have Spence and Clarke on the same blueline
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5466020/2024/05/02/la-kings-blake-dubois-offseason/ - Again, they see forwards as the biggest issue and Dubois as a cap dump
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/los-angeles-kings/latest-news/kings-should-look-into-mitch-marner-if-hes-available - And now we have someone saying the Kings should move Clarke for Marner

Do I seriously need to go through every website where people get paid to watch, analyze and write about hockey and show you that NONE of them agree with your position. For God's sake, you've had a former NHL executive on this very site explain to you in excruciating detail why you are wrong, and you still won't give up.

Here is the difference between you and me. You run around here with your merry band of idiots criticizing rational proposals because they hurt your feelings when your favourite little guy is being taken away from you. Meanwhile I take the criticism and am right 9/10 times when trades go down. I called the EXACT value on Tanev, Zadorov, Lindholm with midseason trade. I called Hertl or Zegras to Vegas. I called Hanifin to Vegas. I called Lybushkin and Edmunston to Toronto (at the exact values they were traded for) and predicted the Leafs would lose a low scoring first round because of it. I called Bertuzzi and Domi to Toronto, I said Karlsson would go to Pit for free (1st was about what it would have cost to dump all the salary they sent to SJ anyways).

So you keep attacking me, I hope you are enjoying it. Cause when I have real evidence that I am right and you are wrong, your little insults are not going to make me change my mind just so you can give me a little praise.