All in to the 3peat (Tatar, Henrique and Theodore)

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Créé par: Willian_Cardoso

Équipe: 2017-18 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2017

Publié: 29 juill. 2017

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Well, I'm not saying this is a realistic scenario. But, if I were Rutheford, I'd go all in and I'd do everthing to the historic 3peat.

Besides, Tatar and Theodore would be great players not justo for the present, but also for the future.

The trade can seems one sided in favor of Pens, but rebuilding teams like all these 3 want as many young players, prospects and picks as possible. Except for the rental Cole. But he's a very good d-man, amazing on block shots and PK. So, he could be traded by Vegas to a contender for picks and prospects, somenthing that could be easy, cause Cole is a cheap great rental d-man.

PS:

Future considerations of Tatar's trade: If he scores at least 30 goals next season, Wings will receive Pens 2020 3rd as an aditional pick.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Sheary, Conor		1	3 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Winnik, Daniel	1	1 250 000 $
Hudler, Jiri	1	800 000 $
Despres, Simon	1	800 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Henrique, Adam
Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

If Hagelin reaches between 30 and 35 points, Pens will receive Devils 2018 4th round pick. If he reaches more than 35 points, Pens will receive their 2018 3rd.

NJD

Hagelin, Carl
Kühnhackl, Tom
Pouliot, Derrick
Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

If Henrique reaches more than 50 points, Devils will receive Pens 2018 2nd and Pens 2019 3rd.

PIT

Tatar, Tomas
Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (DET)

Détails additionnels:

If Sheary reaches between 50 and 55 points next regular season, Pens will receive Wings 2018 3rd round pick. If he reaches more than 55 points, Pens will receive Wings 2018 2nd. If he reaches more than 55 points and at least 25 goals, Pens will receive Wings 2018 2nd and Wings 2019 4th.

DET

Détails additionnels:

If Tatar scores at l

PIT

Theodore, Shea

VGK

Cole, Ian
Jarry, Tristan
Wilson, Scott
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PIT)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2018
2019
2020

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	75 000 000 $	73 000 725 $	50 000 $	365 000 $	1 999 275 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 734 167 $734 167 $ (182 500 $$182K) AG, AD UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Hörnqvist, Patric 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 5	Kessel, Phil 6 800 000 $6 800 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Rust, Bryan 640 000 $640 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Henrique, Adam 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Tatar, Tomas 4 800 000 $4 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Sprong, Daniel 692 500 $692 500 $ (182 500 $$182K) AD, AG UFA - 1	Rowney, Carter 612 500 $612 500 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Winnik, Daniel 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C UFA - 1	McKegg, Greg 650 000 $650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1
Hudler, Jiri 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Murray, Matt 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ G UFA - 3
Määttä, Olli 3 333 225 $3 333 225 $ DG UFA - 5	Schultz, Justin 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Niemi, Antti 700 000 $700 000 $ G UFA - 1
Theodore, Shea 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Hunwick, Matt 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG UFA - 3
	Ruhwedel, Chad 650 000 $650 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Kessel, P.		Crosby, S.		Hörnqvist, P.
	Malkin, E.		Letang, K.

Avantage numérique 2
Guentzel, J.		Henrique, A.		Tatar, T.
	Theodore, S.		Schultz, J.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Henrique, A.	Rust, B.
	Dumoulin, B.	Letang, K.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Winnik, D.	Rowney, C.
	Määttä, O.	Hunwick, M.

29 juill. 2017 à 9 h 18

grovercleveland

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First off, none of those trades are even close to fair.

Also, what is it with people on this site putting these crazy conditions on draft picks? When does that EVER happen?

goldie078 a aimé ceci.

29 juill. 2017 à 10 h 12

Willian_Cardoso

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Quoting: grovercleveland

First off, none of those trades are even close to fair.

Also, what is it with people on this site putting these crazy conditions on draft picks? When does that EVER happen?

Disagree. Maybe a bit less than the deserved, but they aren't far from the fair value of these players.

As for the conditional picks...what's more fair than conditional picks based on players performance!? I don't see any problem with that. In fact, I see that as a smart and fair way to a team get something even better in a trade than the original acquisition.

29 juill. 2017 à 10 h 17

palhal

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I don't agree with grovercleveland often, but he is correct, all these conditions don't happen in real life. The Tatar trade might happen, but other two, the Pens get the marquee player for NHL scraps. (although I have hope for Jarry. Vegas already has enough scraps via the expansion draft

29 juill. 2017 à 10 h 50

HockeyNM1510

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Vegas isn't moving one of their best players from the expansion draft that is young, controlled, and good.

29 juill. 2017 à 11 h 8

Willian_Cardoso

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Quoting: palhal

I said in my explanations that this scenario is not realistic. My team won't make all these trade. At most a trades for Henrique.

Although the conditional picks don't happen often in real life, if I were a GM, I'll change that, cause picks based on future production makes much sense. Specially when involves young players. As I said, it's a smart way to get something even better and fairer than the original trade.

Everything can evolves. This includes things about all the sports. Including hockey. So, why not change that and use more conditional picks, specially in young players and prospects trades? Then the trades could be fairer and less gambling than nowadays. It's just my opinion.

29 juill. 2017 à 11 h 12

Willian_Cardoso

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Quoting: HockeyNM1510

Vegas isn't moving one of their best players from the expansion draft that is young, controlled, and good.

As for Vegas...well, I think their strategy is have no strategy. Most of their trades makes no sense to me. They acquired picks, but in most of them they traded good players for peanuts.

This is why I'd propose that trade, If I was Rutheford.

29 juill. 2017 à 13 h 56

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Yeah well Tatar isn't on the block now, Had he signed only a one year deal instead of four years then maybe. But any ways Detroit doesn't do it.

29 juill. 2017 à 14 h 30

Willian_Cardoso

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Quoting: Larkinisking

Yeah well Tatar isn't on the block now, Had he signed only a one year deal instead of four years then maybe. But any ways Detroit doesn't do it.

You're probably right. But it worths the try to acquire him. The second option would be Nyquist. I think Wings probably would be more willing to trade Nyquist than Tatar, after re-sign Tatar.

Nyquist's trade value would be easier to achieve than Tatar's.

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