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Créé par: sharcuda22

Équipe: 2024-25 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 23 mai 2024

Publié: 23 mai 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The vision: 1-3 lines 15-17 minutes a night, trying to get the various kids into all situations. Sturm line can check and might have some depth scoring.
1.) Necas is a 65 (ish) point winger I think that a first + a huge cap dump (worth a 2nd) is good value (maybe im a homer but lemme know what you think)
2.) We have to trade one of Burroughs Benning or Ruuta. Ruuta might be the easiest to trade but having someone who can speak Russian in the squad might help Muk’s development.
2.) It is critical to get someone better at puck moving into our defense. Skjei on a huge money two Or three year contract is my dream. Who are you interested in?

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Smith, Will		3	950 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kunin, Luke	3	2 100 000 $
Thrun, Henry	2	1 000 000 $
Emberson, Ty	1	1 000 000 $
Bordeleau, Thomas	1	930 000 $
Necas, Martin	4	6 550 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
DeMelo, Dylan		3	5 000 000 $
Lorentz, Steven		2	1 050 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Celebrini, Macklin		3	950 000 $

Transactions

SJS

Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]

CAR

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VGK)

SJS

Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (VGK)

VGK

Benning, Matthew

Rachats de contrats

Martin Jones: 1 666 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)
Erik Karlsson: 1 500 000 $ (13.04%)
Tomas Hertl: 1 387 500 $ (17.05%)

Enfoui

Nikolai Knyzhov: 100 000 $ (1 250 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 700 000 $	71 481 667 $	0 $	1 250 000 $	16 218 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Eklund, William 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG RFA - 2	Celebrini, Macklin 950 000 $950 000 $	Necas, Martin 6 550 000 $6 550 000 $ AD RFA
Bordeleau, Thomas 930 000 $930 000 $ C, AG RFA	Granlund, Mikael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Kostin, Klim 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Smith, Will 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA - 3
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 4 820 000 $4 820 000 $ C UFA - 6	Sturm, Nico 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Ferraro, Mario 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG UFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 350 000 $2 350 000 $ G UFA - 1
Mukhamadullin, Shakir 894 167 $894 167 $ (400 000 $$400K) DG RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Vanecek, Vitek 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 1
Thrun, Henry 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG RFA	Emberson, Ty 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD RFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Smith, Givani 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Lorentz, Steven 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA

23 mai à 6 h 39

ecupirate07

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Canes pass. KK’s buyout is so cheap, attaching him to necas to drag down necas’ value is nonsensical

23 mai à 6 h 40

Caniac2000

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Canes pass, that's a comically low offer for both

23 mai à 6 h 42

sharcuda22

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Canes pass, that's a comically low offer for both

Brother when will you accept KK is a cap dump :/

23 mai à 6 h 55

Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Brother when will you accept KK is a cap dump :/

Okay, don't trade for him, it's still not even close for Necas

23 mai à 8 h 49

Sjbackseatgm

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Sharks better off keeping vgk first

23 mai à 8 h 56

vikhodush

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Canes aren’t dragging down Necas value. No thx.

sharcuda22 a aimé ceci.

23 mai à 10 h 26

spockrock

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A serious attempt at what?

That’s awful for CAR

24 mai à 8 h 7

sharcuda22

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Quoting: spockrock

A serious attempt at what?

That’s awful for CAR

Ur mom lol.

Value is fine, but i do get what the canes fans have been saying about not wanting to drag down his value with KK

24 mai à 8 h 9

sharcuda22

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Okay, don't trade for him, it's still not even close for Necas

A first + the cap dump in the value of a second is enough for Necas. 1 + 2 in picks is good value but im sure canes dont want futures.

24 mai à 8 h 12

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

A first + the cap dump in the value of a second is enough for Necas. 1 + 2 in picks is good value but im sure canes dont want futures.

Nope, that doesn't get Necas and KK! Sorry, you don't get good players for scraps

24 mai à 8 h 16

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Nope, that doesn't get Necas and KK! Sorry, you don't get good players for scraps

Well, not good players, kk is in the deal lmao

24 mai à 8 h 18

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Well, not good players, kk is in the deal lmao

And he's a good player. He's a touch overpaid, but he's still a good player! Scraps aren't getting him or Necas!

24 mai à 8 h 19

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spockrock

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Ur mom lol.

Value is fine, but i do get what the canes fans have been saying about not wanting to drag down his value with KK

They can buy out Kotkaniemi for minimal cap. No need to dump him.

Your proposal is laughably bad. That you keep trying to defend it is hilarious

24 mai à 9 h 17

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sharcuda22

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Quoting: Caniac2000

And he's a good player. He's a touch overpaid, but he's still a good player! Scraps aren't getting him or Necas!

That’s why he was getting healthy scratched, thats what you do to good players! A 1st is a scrap that’s crazy

24 mai à 9 h 17

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Quoting: spockrock

They can buy out Kotkaniemi for minimal cap. No need to dump him.

Your proposal is laughably bad. That you keep trying to defend it is hilarious

How much more than a first is Necas worth, is a first and 2nd not enough?

24 mai à 9 h 18

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

That’s why he was getting healthy scratched, thats what you do to good players! A 1st is a scrap that’s crazy

Yup! Late 1st a year away for a team trying to win the cup parting with a 60-70 point player is a scrap!

24 mai à 9 h 19

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

How much more than a first is Necas worth

1st, 2nd, Bordeleau, Zadina... even that's probably low because of how poor Zadina was this season

24 mai à 9 h 21

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Quoting: Caniac2000

1st, 2nd, Bordeleau, Zadina... even that's probably low because of how poor Zadina was this season

He’s a 60/65pt winger on an elite team, he is not worth that much

24 mai à 9 h 23

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Yup! Late 1st a year away for a team trying to win the cup parting with a 60-70 point player is a scrap!

24/25 is the next season its not a year away and this year vegas finished at 19 and they have to get under the cap. That pick could be anywhere from 16-23 realistically.

24 mai à 9 h 24

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

He’s a 60/65pt winger on an elite team, he is not worth that much

Then you don't get him. He's got team control, and the Canes have no reason to move him. Either pay, or you don't get a Necas. This is an AWFUL proposal, and the fact you keep defending it says a lot about you. He's worth more than 1st, and considerably more than a 1st

24 mai à 9 h 24

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: sharcuda22

24/25 is the next season its not a year away and this year vegas finished at 19 and they have to get under the cap. That pick could be anywhere from 16-23 realistically.

The 2024 draft hasn't happened yet, it's a 1st in 2025, it's literally a year away... math buddy

24 mai à 9 h 26

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spockrock

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Quoting: sharcuda22

How much more than a first is Necas worth, is a first and 2nd not enough?

Research returns for Fiala and Reinhart.

24 mai à 9 h 29

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Except that Guentzel and Jarvis get a combined 17mil +. And i agree he is worth more than a first… a first and a second and maybe someone like zadina as a sweetner

24 mai à 9 h 31

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Except that Guentzel and Jarvis get a combined 17mil +. And i agree he is worth more than a first… a first and a second and maybe someone like zadina as a sweetner

What? Combined, they'll get maybe 15. Jarvis won't get more than 6 on a bridge, and Guentzel will make around 9.

Okay, that's more reasonable. Sorry, I thought you meant he was worth *only* a 1st which was a bad look. A 1st, 2nd and something like Zadina is definitely in the right area, but something like Bordeleau would probably be wanted by Carolina, perhaps in place of Zadina. Or maybe Bordeleau and Kunin instead of Zadina.

24 mai à 9 h 31

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Quoting: spockrock

Research returns for Fiala and Reinhart.

Genuinely you are proving my point. The return for fíala was number 19 (vegas finished 19 this year) and Faber (who was pick 45 (thats in the second round)). When faber was traded he was not considered to be a #1 dman, several reports from that year had him as a B+ prospect. So thank you

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