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Créé par: Boltsbeathabs
Équipe: 2024-25 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2024
Publié: 22 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/838743
Responding to this. @Rav
This was to show cap and roster issues players traded got picks in original,but the return didn't matter for the point I'm making.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
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2800 000 $
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    22 mai à 15 h 47
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    @Rav no ?
    22 mai à 16 h 30
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Rav no ?


    Works great, love having Howard or Conglaves on the 2nd line. So you are asking Stamkos to come back for less to play with a rookie. Just doesn't make sense man. JBB is going all in, hence why he just traded a 2nd for MAC. Its either Stammer does not come back, which I believe isn't even an option, or Cirelli goes. You can replace Cirelli's offense stats with a 3m player like Duclair, then replace his defense skills with a player like Motte for 800k and POCKET the remaining 3m you save... then use that 3m + Conglaves 800k to go get a veteran FWD for 4m to play with Stamkos. Thats when he will agree to take a massive paycut.
    22 mai à 16 h 38
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    Rav no ?


    Now, do I see this as a possibility? Absolutely. I created my roster as if TB does trade Cirelli, and if they did what I think would work. However, I believe TB has a better roster if they do find a trade partner for Cirelli because that roster you created is extremely thin offensively and TB had trouble scoring last year outside of Kuch, Hagel, Point and Stammer.
    22 mai à 18 h 47
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    Works great, love having Howard or Conglaves on the 2nd line. So you are asking Stamkos to come back for less to play with a rookie. Just doesn't make sense man. JBB is going all in, hence why he just traded a 2nd for MAC. Its either Stammer does not come back, which I believe isn't even an option, or Cirelli goes. You can replace Cirelli's offense stats with a 3m player like Duclair, then replace his defense skills with a player like Motte for 800k and POCKET the remaining 3m you save... then use that 3m + Conglaves 800k to go get a veteran FWD for 4m to play with Stamkos. Thats when he will agree to take a massive paycut.


    No I'm assuming he comes back because as he's said thousands of times "I WANT TO BE HERE MY ENTIRE CAREER" ALSO BECAUSE HE SAID "IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME ANYMORE, I HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY WHO'S PLANTED ROOTS HERE. " ALSO "I LOVE THE AREA THIS HAS BECOME HOME"
    He also remembers an 18/19 yo Steven Stankos playing regularly with Marty and Vinny.
    22 mai à 18 h 59
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    No I'm assuming he comes back because as he's said thousands of times "I WANT TO BE HERE MY ENTIRE CAREER" ALSO BECAUSE HE SAID "IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME ANYMORE, I HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY WHO'S PLANTED ROOTS HERE. " ALSO "I LOVE THE AREA THIS HAS BECOME HOME"
    He also remembers an 18/19 yo Steven Stankos playing regularly with Marty and Vinny.


    Ah ok, so 0 effort into truly trying to figure a way to make the team better.. just resigning people and expecting prospects who have never played a game in the NHL to jump onto the 2nd and 3rd line. You really are making your case here my friend. Why don't you atleast try to make the team better rather than argue with people online who are trying to come up with scenarios for fun? The entire purpose of this is to develop a team that works within the NHL cap system, yet you didn't even attempt to make the team better... you made the worse... yet arguing with me that I traded Cirelli who is by far the most expendable player on the roster since he produced a mere 50 points at best playing with some of the games best players. Cirelli is a glorified 3rd liner with 20 goal potential. He just happened to land into a good team and system to be TB 2nd line center, but surrounded by Killorn, Hagel, Stamkos his entire career.
    Coburned et earl08 a aimé ceci.
     
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