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2 mai à 22 h 53
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Isn't Winnipeg having some questionable financials already? Probably like Calgary, they can't afford to rebuild even if they wanted to and they were a good team this year, just overmatched against a superior team. Happens every postseason. Doesn't mean they are a weak team at all.
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Isn't Winnipeg having some questionable financials already? Probably like Calgary, they can't afford to rebuild even if they wanted to and they were a good team this year, just overmatched against a superior team. Happens every postseason. Doesn't mean they are a weak team at all.


Their defense and top 6 too soft will never compete in the playoffs like this. and the owners have 0 financial issues, they pissed off season ticket holders and didnt sell out every game. Jets fans are smart they will support the team through a rebuild. they will not support a team that has no direction and gets bounced early every year from a lack of effort
2 mai à 22 h 58
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Answer me this, where would the jets sit if they let helly and scheifele go to free agency, possibly some token draft picks for jumping the line to talk contracts before July 1, then using the 17 million in savings combined with assets on nearing contract completion or a year or two out to free agency, moving them for bad contracts and picks and prospects til the cows come home. Take a page from the coyotes basically, but tear it down thoroughly and ugly, then with any luck there’s 4/5 extra firsts in next 3 drafts, and some of the ugly turns into something with opportunity and be back in the saddle by 2029, when hopefully and Dallas/colorado ready to give up the division.
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Answer me this, where would the jets sit if they let helly and scheifele go to free agency, possibly some token draft picks for jumping the line to talk contracts before July 1, then using the 17 million in savings combined with assets on nearing contract completion or a year or two out to free agency, moving them for bad contracts and picks and prospects til the cows come home. Take a page from the coyotes basically, but tear it down thoroughly and ugly, then with any luck there’s 4/5 extra firsts in next 3 drafts, and some of the ugly turns into something with opportunity and be back in the saddle by 2029, when hopefully and Dallas/colorado ready to give up the division.


I cant understand most of what youre trying to ask/say but tank for Mckenna/Dupont
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Flyers have no need


Hes ginger though
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Quoting: jfkst1
Isn't Winnipeg having some questionable financials already? Probably like Calgary, they can't afford to rebuild even if they wanted to and they were a good team this year, just overmatched against a superior team. Happens every postseason. Doesn't mean they are a weak team at all.

Jets owners have resources for days, they bought up the downtown, made deals on a mall now, they are invested, just trying to wrattle the cages of corporate Winnipeg to pick up the slack of lagging original season ticket holder groups, that were wearing down with the chaos of the time, and some of the decisions of the team. Jets ownership has a theory of competitive keeps the status quo, where the fanbase wants a shot at winning the last possible game of the year. If they don’t choose rebuild, it is going to be forced on them ugly. Hopefully the scouts and development team is on fire to bring resources needed to put the team over the top.
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I cant understand most of what youre trying to ask/say but tank for Mckenna/Dupont

Just a rambling vent
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Jets owners have resources for days, they bought up the downtown, made deals on a mall now, they are invested, just trying to wrattle the cages of corporate Winnipeg to pick up the slack of lagging original season ticket holder groups, that were wearing down with the chaos of the time, and some of the decisions of the team. Jets ownership has a theory of competitive keeps the status quo, where the fanbase wants a shot at winning the last possible game of the year. If they don’t choose rebuild, it is going to be forced on them ugly. Hopefully the scouts and development team is on fire to bring resources needed to put the team over the top.


Fans don't care about the balance sheet and ignore the business realities of an organization. This site especially is bad at that. No ownership group in the league is remotely considering "rebuilding" after finishing 4th in the regular season standings. It's pure delusion.
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Hes ginger though


Can’t argue with that logic
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Fans don't care about the balance sheet and ignore the business realities of an organization. This site especially is bad at that. No ownership group in the league is remotely considering "rebuilding" after finishing 4th in the regular season standings. It's pure delusion.


Just a few too many of the players heading to the wrong side of 30 and the replacement 25 and under have been mediocre or unimpressive, so growing old with a franchise that can’t bring in a list free agents, needs a robbery trade or home runs in the draft to complement the group, or run into a ugly rebuild, move over sharks.
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Just a few too many of the players heading to the wrong side of 30 and the replacement 25 and under have been mediocre or unimpressive, so growing old with a franchise that can’t bring in a list free agents, needs a robbery trade or home runs in the draft to complement the group, or run into a ugly rebuild, move over sharks.


Very few ownership groups approve aggressive rebuilds until the team has been floundering for years. The reason being is that rebuilds, even for large markets, is a major opportunity cost of financial loss. And it is even worse for most small markets. Plenty of teams should be rebuilding like Calgary, Pittsburgh, Washington, New York Isles, etc. They don't because ownership groups won't approve it until it is inevitable. San Jose was also a prime example of that.
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Very few ownership groups approve aggressive rebuilds until the team has been floundering for years. The reason being is that rebuilds, even for large markets, is a major opportunity cost of financial loss. And it is even worse for most small markets. Plenty of teams should be rebuilding like Calgary, Pittsburgh, Washington, New York Isles, etc. They don't because ownership groups won't approve it until it is inevitable. San Jose was also a prime example of that.


I understand your sentiment, but having the smallest city, and the smallest building, the jets need to do somethings differently than the rest of the league, especially with the dollar predicted to be heading in the wrong direction. Still believe they should run the team like an extended junior team, 1st rounders possibly have til 29/30 years old. Everybody else traded before they can walk for nothing. Trade back into a 3/4 year window to build a nucleus and take them on a run til you do it again. No aging out assets, or walking for nothing, not a great chance anyone retires there or has milestone nights. But with any luck they can win the last possible game of the year, and or hang a few banners every decade.
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Fans don't care about the balance sheet and ignore the business realities of an organization. This site especially is bad at that. No ownership group in the league is remotely considering "rebuilding" after finishing 4th in the regular season standings. It's pure delusion.


Rebuild or "retool" should've happened after 2018 and they wouldn't be in this mess now.
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I understand your sentiment, but having the smallest city, and the smallest building, the jets need to do somethings differently than the rest of the league, especially with the dollar predicted to be heading in the wrong direction. Still believe they should run the team like an extended junior team, 1st rounders possibly have til 29/30 years old. Everybody else traded before they can walk for nothing. Trade back into a 3/4 year window to build a nucleus and take them on a run til you do it again. No aging out assets, or walking for nothing, not a great chance anyone retires there or has milestone nights. But with any luck they can win the last possible game of the year, and or hang a few banners every decade.


What NHL org. is hanging banners every decade? None in the cap era so if that is your expectation it is, again, pure delusion. Bruins won a SC in 2011, and made the SCF in 2015 and 2019, but have only won a single SC in the modern era. And that is the most competitive org. overall. In the cap era teams ascend and then decline. All the "dynasties" have done this: Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Tampa, ect. It's the intention and nature of the cap era.
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What NHL org. is hanging banners every decade? None in the cap era so if that is your expectation it is, again, pure delusion. Bruins won a SC in 2011, and made the SCF in 2015 and 2019, but have only won a single SC in the modern era. And that is the most competitive org. overall. In the cap era teams ascend and then decline. All the "dynasties" have done this: Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Tampa, ect. It's the intention and nature of the cap era.


Plenty of organizations are hanging banners every decade, not always the one that everyone strives for, just can’t stand mid, and it seems what this organization strives for. Stay mid keep asses in the seats, much rather risk feast or famine, and give the city a proper chance at a cup. Mid and milestone nights, and career players just aren’t for me. Even once in a generation trip to the finals, would be suffice in some levels, like 04 flames or 06 oilers or 07 sens. 18 trip to conference finals doesn’t quite cut it, still recite some of that lineup and hold a special place. But damn is that all there is?
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Plenty of organizations are hanging banners every decade, not always the one that everyone strives for, just can’t stand mid, and it seems what this organization strives for. Stay mid keep asses in the seats, much rather risk feast or famine, and give the city a proper chance at a cup. Mid and milestone nights, and career players just aren’t for me. Even once in a generation trip to the finals, would be suffice in some levels, like 04 flames or 06 oilers or 07 sens. 18 trip to conference finals doesn’t quite cut it, still recite some of that lineup and hold a special place. But damn is that all there is?


What do you mean by "hanging banners?" If you mean playing in a SCF every decade that is pure delusion in the modern NHL. If you mean winning the division then sure that's realistic.
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What do you mean by "hanging banners?" If you mean playing in a SCF every decade that is pure delusion in the modern NHL. If you mean winning the division then sure that's realistic.


You get banners for a division win, conference win, presidents trophy, Stanley cup. In a decade you should be able to at least win your division. In 10 years, there’s a possible 2 5-year plans, at the end of one, there should be some shine of success lol
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Hes ginger though


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Can’t argue with that logic


Looking forward to the All Ginger armchair GM team.
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