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Créé par: Howie

Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg

Date de création initiale: 27 avr. 2024

Publié: 27 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

No secret that the jets need a legit top 4 rhd. Nyi are in a similar position with needing a top 6 forward that can create more offense. This concept has floated around before but wanted to bring it back up as with the nyi on brink of being swept change should be coming and this seems like something that could benefit both teams.

Challenges to the trade:
Ehlers has a 10 team no trade list
Pulock has a ntc (but is from Manitoba so he may waive)

What would need to be included:
Obviously the term is different with ehlers an upcoming ufa and pulock with 6 more years so an extension would need to be in place. Would there need to any more involved to make a trade happen. Jets most likely don't need a replacement top 6 player with lambert looking more ready than ever. Would NYI need a rhd coming back as a roster replacement? Pionk is an option there but again more trade protection complicates the trade and what else to make a fair trade.

Conclusion:
Based on what both teams need it seems like a possibility but what do you guys think and what would a deal look like, extension for ehlers and other aspects to a deal. Thanks

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Pulock, Ryan

NYI

Ehlers, Nikolaj

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Used 2023-2024 season to not have to sign players

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
26	83 500 000 $	87 067 858 $	0 $	865 000 $	-3 567 858 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Perfetti, Cole 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, C RFA - 1	Scheifele, Mark 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Vilardi, Gabriel 3 437 500 $3 437 500 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Connor, Kyle 7 142 857 $7 142 857 $ AG UFA - 3	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Toffoli, Tyler 2 125 000 $2 125 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Niederreiter, Nino 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Appleton, Mason 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ AD UFA - 2
Iafallo, Alex 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2	Barron, Morgan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
Gustafsson, David 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1		Kupari, Rasmus 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Morrissey, Joshua 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $6 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 7	Hellebuyck, Connor 6 166 667 $6 166 667 $ G NMC UFA - 1
Dillon, Brenden 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ DG UFA - 1	DeMelo, Dylan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Brossoit, Laurent 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Stanley, Logan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Samberg, Dylan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Delia, Collin 775 000 $775 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Pionk, Neal 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
	Schmidt, Nate 5 950 000 $5 950 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2
	Miller, Colin 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ DD UFA - 1

27 avr. à 15 h 39

Warpbox

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How would an Ehlers Hronek swap work? I imagine VAN would look for more assets in the trade but what would Winnipeg think?

27 avr. à 15 h 43

Howie

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Quoting: Warpbox

How would an Ehlers Hronek swap work? I imagine VAN would look for more assets in the trade but what would Winnipeg think?

I'd be okay with it but with how much hronek is reported to have declined from Vancouver it may not be a perfect fit for either team. Jets need basically a better demelo that has size and great defensive attributes. Hronek seems more offensive and softer in comparison to a Pulock. Pulock is also signed long term and from Manitoba. Vancouver would most likely need a rhd back like pionk and then the deal is so complicated with ntc and players that even if you find a trade both teams accept, the players could have a team on a ntc.

Warpbox a aimé ceci.

27 avr. à 16 h 12

Shanesaw9

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This deal makes a lot of sense for both sides in my opinion, would be cool to see Pulock in WPG.

27 avr. à 16 h 49

csick

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Id give u Chychrun + Norris for Pulock and Pageau

27 avr. à 16 h 54

Howie

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Quoting: csick

Id give u Chychrun + Norris for Pulock and Pageau

Don't think nyi want a worst cap player in Norris so they probably decline that buddy

27 avr. à 16 h 54

csick

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Quoting: Howie

Don't think nyi want a worst cap player in Norris so they probably decline that buddy

Pageau is a negative asset, Norris is good just a little overpaid.

Id also do Chychrun + 25th overall

27 avr. à 16 h 57

Howie

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Quoting: csick

Pageau is a negative asset, Norris is good just a little overpaid.

Id also do Chychrun + 25th overall

Nyi don't need lhd with pelech romanov and bolduc. Chychrun is also about to be a ufa so pulock for 6 years >>>>>>>> 1 year of Chychrun and a late first buddy

27 avr. à 16 h 58

Howie

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Quoting: csick

Pageau is a negative asset, Norris is good just a little overpaid.

Id also do Chychrun + 25th overall

Norris is a negative asset with the injuries and cap he's at 8m for 30 points ain't it boss

27 avr. à 16 h 58

csick

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Quoting: Howie

Nyi don't need lhd with pelech romanov and bolduc. Chychrun is also about to be a ufa so pulock for 6 years >>>>>>>> 1 year of Chychrun and a late first buddy

i dont care id add anything to get Pulock. Hes exactly what ottawa needs. Ehlers is also a UFA at the end of the year

27 avr. à 16 h 59

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csick

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Quoting: Howie

Norris is a negative asset with the injuries and cap he's at 8m for 30 points ain't it boss

Norris had 30pts in 50 games, get educated buddy. He also played most of his games with the worst forward in the league Kubalik

27 avr. à 17 h 0

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Howie

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Quoting: csick

i dont care id add anything to get Pulock. Hes exactly what ottawa needs. Ehlers is also a UFA at the end of the year

He can block a trade buddy makes more sense to be traded to Winnipeg as he's from Manitoba. Fact is you could do 10 first he can decline the trade. Probably best to move on to other options that make sense

27 avr. à 17 h 1

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Howie

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Quoting: csick

Norris had 30pts in 50 games, get educated buddy. He also played most of his games with the worst forward in the league Kubalik

8m for 30 points with the injuries he's had you can't keep your head in the sand forever. 2 major injuries at that cap is just not movable

27 avr. à 17 h 2

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csick

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Quoting: Howie

8m for 30 points with the injuries he's had you can't keep your head in the sand forever. 2 major injuries at that cap is just not movable

stop saying 30pts. He was on pace for 50pts/82 games while being injured. Hes a 65-70pt 200ft player when healthy.

27 avr. à 17 h 6

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Quoting: csick

stop saying 30pts. He was on pace for 50pts/82 games while being injured. Hes a 65-70pt 200ft player when healthy.

He's had major injuries since 2019 that's 5 years and never hit more than 65 points with the tern he has he doesn't have as much value as you think like I wouldn't give up Nino for him 1 for 1 for reference

27 avr. à 17 h 8

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csick

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Quoting: Howie

I like Nino and hes a great middle 6F that I want but ill take Norris any day of the week.

27 avr. à 17 h 9

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Howie

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Quoting: csick

I like Nino and hes a great middle 6F that I want but ill take Norris any day of the week.

I'd rather have someone that actually plays and not 8 games like last season only 50 this year 17 in 2019 in Michigan, never available bro

27 avr. à 20 h 12

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Dekes

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Quoting: csick

I like Nino and hes a great middle 6F that I want but ill take Norris any day of the week.

Quoting: Howie

I'd rather have someone that actually plays and not 8 games like last season only 50 this year 17 in 2019 in Michigan, never available bro

Norris’s shoulder is softer than semi melted butter, y’all screwed yourself on that contract. He will never be a playoff star because he’ll never make it past the 1st round with how physical the game gets.

27 avr. à 20 h 17

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Quoting: Dekes

Hmmmm

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