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Créé par: edeangel84

Équipe: 2024-25 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 5 avr. 2024

Publié: 5 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I was all onboard with scraping this team to the trash heap and starting over. I still am not convinced this team has anything left to offer… but the fact that they are fighting right now and showing a sense of urgency that’s been invisible for months prior tells me that 87 deserves another run. We should be looking to move Jarry and Rakell this offseason. I also hope Dubas learns that a buyout is sometimes a good idea.

Resign:
Crosby 8.7Mx2
Pettersson: 6.5Mx6

Buyout-Reilly Smith

Waive-Acciari

Any RFA who isn’t already ours I’m assuming won’t get a qualifying offer and will be a UFA.

There’s plenty of opportunities for depth players to move into this lineup. We can still send down Puustinen and Poulin among the forwards. Also we could send down Rooney to give Ponomarev a spot if he performs well in WBS. As far as the Dman go, guys like Ludvig, Shea, Rathbone, and St. Ivany all can rotate into the lineup as needed. For goalies Vladar stars the year as the 2, but if he struggles he can be sent down for either Copley or Blomqvist (who I’m hoping is the long term answer).

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Yager, Brayden		3	950 000 $
Nickl, Thimo		2	875 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bemström, Emil	1	925 000 $
St. Ivany, Jack	2	925 000 $
Puustinen, Valtteri	2	925 000 $
Poulin, Samuel	1	925 000 $
Gruden, Jonathan	1	925 000 $
Cajkovic, Maxim	1	875 000 $
Douglas, Curtis	1	875 000 $
Steeves, Alex	1	875 000 $
Sutter, Riley	1	875 000 $
Weatherby, Jasper	1	875 000 $
Hollowell, Mac	1	875 000 $
Rathbone, Jack	1	875 000 $
Coghlan, Dylan	1	875 000 $
Andonovski, Corey	1	875 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Nedeljkovic, Alex	1	2 250 000 $
Griffith, Seth	1	850 000 $
Copley, Pheonix	1	900 000 $
Fedun, Taylor	1	875 000 $
Khaira, Jujhar	1	875 000 $
Toffoli, Tyler	3	5 000 000 $
Monahan, Sean	4	4 000 000 $
Skjei, Brady	5	6 000 000 $
Chatfield, Jalen	4	2 250 000 $
Shea, Ryan	1	850 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Douglas, Curtis	875 000 $	Aucune compensation
Steeves, Alex	875 000 $	Aucune compensation
Sutter, Riley	875 000 $	Aucune compensation
Weatherby, Jasper	875 000 $	Aucune compensation
Hollowell, Mac	875 000 $	Aucune compensation
Coghlan, Dylan	875 000 $	Aucune compensation

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2026 (ARI)

Détails additionnels:

Rakell is better than this but it’s a contract that needs to be moved. We need to give the younger forwards space to play and we need space for UFAs.

ARI

Rakell, Rickard
Svejkovsky, Lukas
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

We give up the higher pick and toss in a minor piece, either a cheap ELC or a mid tier prospect.

PIT

Hunt, Dryden
Rooney, Kevin
Vladar, Daniel
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)

Détails additionnels:

This is a trade that occurs AFTER Markstrom is traded. Wolf and Jarry are the Flames goalies.

CGY

Jarry, Tristan
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Vladar and Rooney come back to help with cap for the upcoming season. POJ and the pick are added in to give a little extra incentive to make the move and take on additional years of Jarry’s contract.

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $
Reilly Smith: 2 333 334 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jeff Petry: 1 562 500 $ (25%)

Enfoui

Noel Acciari: 850 000 $ (2 000 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 700 000 $	86 337 676 $	0 $	0 $	1 362 324 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 4
Monahan, Sean 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Toffoli, Tyler 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA
O'Connor, Drew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Eller, Lars 2 450 000 $2 450 000 $ C UFA - 1	Puustinen, Valtteri 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Poulin, Samuel 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Rooney, Kevin 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ C UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse 800 000 $800 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 3	Nedeljkovic, Alex 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ G UFA
Skjei, Brady 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG UFA	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Vladar, Daniel 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 5	Chatfield, Jalen 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Nieto, Matt 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Bemström, Emil 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG RFA
Ludvig, John 775 000 $775 000 $ DG RFA - 1

5 avr. à 22 h 40

Yotes269

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There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.

5 avr. à 22 h 55

bwhsocal

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Quoting: Yotes269

There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.

keller, schmaltz, guenther, maccelli, doan, crouse he ends up on 4th line and agree 5m for 4 more years - pass

Yotes269 a aimé ceci.

6 avr. à 4 h 29

MoxNix

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Calgary certainly won't be taking Jarry. They need to move a goalie out not bring in another one in.

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Bast

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I think it's far more likely that the Flames go after Talbot, or Quick in free agency if they trade Markstrom.

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Quoting: Bast

I think it's far more likely that the Flames go after Talbot, or Quick in free agency if they trade Markstrom.

A bunch of teams are going to try and pay them. After those two there’s zero good options for UFA goalies.

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Quoting: bwhsocal

keller, schmaltz, guenther, maccelli, doan, crouse he ends up on 4th line and agree 5m for 4 more years - pass

There’s zero chance Rakell ends up on your 4th line.

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Quoting: Yotes269

There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.

You can sign a better RW for the same cap hit… or you can take him and convert a 6th rounder into a 3rd. I think that’s a very easy decision.

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Quoting: MoxNix

Calgary certainly won't be taking Jarry. They need to move a goalie out not bring in another one in.

I’m assuming a Markstrom trade is as good as done for once the summer rolls around so that leaves you with Vladar and Wolf. I’m proposing you upgrade that to Jarry and Wolf.

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PIT is in the same race as everybody else…. To get wiped out by Boston/Florida/New York swiftly.

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Quoting: edeangel84

I’m assuming a Markstrom trade is as good as done for once the summer rolls around so that leaves you with Vladar and Wolf. I’m proposing you upgrade that to Jarry and Wolf.

That makes no sense at all it'd. They'd run with Vladar and Wolf or just keep Markstrom in the first place. Jarry only makes 625k less than Markstrom and his contract has twice as many years left on it. Vladar's contract is much less and expires after the 2024-25 season.

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Quoting: edeangel84

There’s zero chance Rakell ends up on your 4th line.

exactly because there is no way AZ wants him

lets say he is on team which other W is he replacing? keller/schmaltz 1st? crouse/guenther 2nd? maccelli/doan 3rd? heck carcone on 4W has 21 G and Kerfoot (I know playing C now but has been W mostly) has 42pts, so no rakell is not at all needed on the team. C and D oh yeah

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Quoting: edeangel84

You can sign a better RW for the same cap hit… or you can take him and convert a 6th rounder into a 3rd. I think that’s a very easy decision.

Josh Doan is a better option, and $25m isn’t some easy float that you think it is.

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Quoting: RazorSeider53

PIT is in the same race as everybody else…. To get wiped out by Boston/Florida/New York swiftly.

We weren’t even in that race 10 days ago, which is why I’m amazed by this team.

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Quoting: MoxNix

Vladar isn’t any good though. Why would you view him as anything but expendable? In fact every player on your side of that trade is expendable. Guys like Hunt and Rooney are waiver guys. If Markstrom decides he no longer is ticked at your ownership and wants to stay then obviously you wouldn’t trade for a goalie. If Markstrom status you’d still want to move out Vladar to clear a spot for Wolf.

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Quoting: Yotes269

Josh Doan is a better option, and $25m isn’t some easy float that you think it is.

Josh Doan is a better option than a veteran who had 60 points a season ago? If you guys want to be any good next season you’ll need more veteran help. I can’t imagine they want to keep “building for the future” when they finally have an arena plan and the team has been bad for a while now. You have more cap space than almost every team, so why not use it to your advantage? Take on some cap dumps and get paid to do it.

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Quoting: bwhsocal

He would be able to play on the 3rd line of basically every team in the league and probably on the 2nd line for about 10 other teams.

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We don't want anything to do with your cap dump goalie with 4 YEARS left on his contract! Get that through your head. Vladar gets paid a whole lot less, only has one year left and has played well when he gets the opportunity to start more than once in a while. We'll see how he performs next year after finally getting a nagging injury fixed surgically after playing with it for 2 or 3 years. If he's good we extend him if not we don't it's no big deal.

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Quoting: edeangel84

How does Rakell help any of that? Sure, he could absolutely strengthen the bottom 6, but at $5m?

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Quoting: MoxNix

So you’d be ok with an AHL goalie and a goalie who’s not proven anything yet in the NHL? Wolf/Vladar might be the worst tandem in the league if that’s the plan. Ask Buffalo how it went when this time last year they were all convinced Devon Levi would walk into the NHL and dominate.

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Quoting: edeangel84

He would be able to play on the 3rd line of basically every team in the league and probably on the 2nd line for about 10 other teams.

ok so which current winger is he bumping? also if he is this valuable why are there 20 trades a day getting rid of him?

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Quoting: bwhsocal

ok so which current winger is he bumping? also if he is this valuable why are there 20 trades a day getting rid of him?

Cap space is the only reason. And he is objectively a better player today than the kids you have at RW. If you are saying you’d rather give the minutes to those kids that’s understandable, but every GM in this league would take a veteran winger with Rakell’s resume over 98% of the kids in the league if they’re trying to win.

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AZ RW are schmaltz, guenther, doan and carcone. Ill put rakell at this moment ahead of the kids but 2 things; rakell has 4 more years and guenther & doan and prolly but will over those years surpass rakell who will be 35yo at the end of contract. second this team is not a rakell away from competing for cup so yes develop the kids. sorry i know PITT wants/needs to shed cap but AZ has really no need for 30+ yo W for 4 years

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Quoting: bwhsocal

I understand your point of view on this if it is to give ice time to the kids. It’s something I’d like to see the Pens do more of as we move forward. Now I had read that your ownership group wants to make a playoff push next year and I’d assume adding veterans is required. If I’m in your position I’d be using my cap space to get paid to take on contracts. If Rakell’s is too long so be it but I’d look for maybe some shorter term vets, maybe a Dman like Holl who Detroit will need to dump.

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