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Créé par: GetTuched
Équipe: 2024-25 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2024
Publié: 3 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 400 000 $
55 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 900 000 $
1875 000 $
23 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Rosén, Isak
  2. Samuelsson, Mattias
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
2.
PHI
  1. Jokiharju, Henri [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 500 000 $85 170 356 $0 $2 500 000 $2 329 644 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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855 833 $855 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AG
RFA
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C
UFA
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
RFA
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
RFA

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3 avr. à 16 h 8
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Quoting: mokumboi
I said he played less than 100%. Never said he missed a ton of games. smile


Show me where I said he missed a ton games vs just games. But I can show you that Rosen is 176 lbs now, not “155 soaking wet” like you said earlier
3 avr. à 16 h 9
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Quoting: mokumboi
What Guentzel fetched is irrelevant. On pretty much all the levels.


Agree to disagree. Players being traded are compared all the time.
3 avr. à 16 h 11
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Show me where I said he missed games. But I can show you that Rosen is 176 lbs now, not “155 soaking wet” like you said earlier


176 eh? Heh. Not even the Americans are claiming that high.
3 avr. à 16 h 11
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Quoting: mokumboi
176 eh? Heh. Not even the Americans are claiming that high.


Check Dobber, the people that actually update things like that. Or Elite Prospects. And it is 174, my bad
3 avr. à 16 h 19
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Agree to disagree. Players being traded are compared all the time.


Yeah, comps matter on cap dumps and depth defensemen. You are trying to cram two very different situations into the same hole, but it don't fit.

- Guentzel was a TDL UFA being shopped around. Buch has a full season and he is not available, but Army will listen in case anyone wants to blow him away. They are plotting extension talks. Already we have wildly different scenarios.

- Pittsburgh is in a totally different situation with regards to right now. They want to maintain a shot at competing with Sid and Geno and Letang and EK, so Bunting was a solid get for them. It would not be one for the Blues.

- Similarly, the Pens have a nearly barren prospect pool, whereas the Blues are about top 10, depending on who you ask. The Pens clearly went for some organizational depth for the future, the Blues would not be doing that (nor would they agree to spread the value across six pieces or whatever). They'd want specific types of players at specific positions who are closer to ready if possible, and two, maybe three pieces tops.

There's no simple check the other trade comp to be made here with Guentzel, or most anyone else you could bring up.
3 avr. à 16 h 22
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Quoting: mokumboi
Yeah, comps matter on cap dumps and depth defensemen. You are trying to cram two very different situations into the same hole, but it don't fit.

- Guentzel was a TDL UFA being shopped around. Buch has a full season and he is not available, but Army will listen in case anyone wants to blow him away. They are plotting extension talks. Already we have wildly different scenarios.

- Pittsburgh is in a totally different situation with regards to right now. They want to maintain a shot at competing with Sid and Geno and Letang and EK, so Bunting was a solid get for them. It would not be one for the Blues.

- Similarly, the Pens have a nearly barren prospect pool, whereas the Blues are about top 10, depending on who you ask. The Pens clearly went for some organizational depth for the future, the Blues would not be doing that (nor would they agree to spread the value across six pieces or whatever). They'd want specific types of players at specific positions who are closer to ready if possible, and two, maybe three pieces tops.

There's no simple check the other trade comp to be made here with Guentzel, or most anyone else you could bring up.


They matter on more than that, but that’s fine, I’m not going to round and round. If Pitt wanted to keep the window with Sid there open, trading Guentzel should have been the last thing they did, imo.
3 avr. à 17 h 55
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Quoting: Lsendel3
O come on now. It was and is a **** return. Spin it however you want, most likely they sold their last chance with Sid to win anything for more than likely 3rd line guys in 3 years. I remember the O’Reilly trade, Blues fans were thumping their chests pretty loudly and rightfully so. And for 4 years it looked like Buffalo would have had 1.5 seasons of Vlad to show for ROR. I know I’m jumping from trade to trade here, but I can tell you from talking with Pittsburgh fans, they’ve accepted they got basically nothing and like you said a hard to move 2nd/3rd liner.


I mean you’re communicating with fans on a site where the premise is building salary cap darlings without getting actual on ice results.

You’re never going to be happy trading a guy like that while trying to be in a competitive window. But it’s far too early to tell if those players are as worthless as they probably beleive them to be right now.

Let’s look at a team like Boston. Who is the last truly exciting prospect they’ve had, top of the pool destined for greatness? Probably haven’t had one since McAvoy. But they still churn out guys like Poitras that come expectedly out of nowhere. Last year the echo was Boston doesn’t have good enough prospects aside from Lohrei to warrant a considerable trade. Poitras was in that pool. Guys rise and fall yearly. It’s a volatile game.
 
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