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Whats it worth to you

Créé par: Wadejos123
Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 26 mars 2024
Publié: 26 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
For purposes of this conversation assume playing with Bedard and getting out of BUF is enough for skinner to waive
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
1950 000 $
85 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
24 500 000 $
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CHI
  1. Skinner, Jeff
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What would you attach to move the contract?
BUF
    Maybe hawks send a retained Hall or AA back if BUF wants a cheaper Vet F? Or not and BUF clears room for the kids
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2288 500 000 $75 907 500 $0 $5 832 500 $12 592 500 $
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    26 mars à 12 h 35
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    Full no move clause it wouldn’t matter.
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    26 mars à 12 h 38
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    Skinner at 9mil for 3 more yrs with a NMC is going to cost to dump.

    Yes he was a ppg last year, and has a 63 pt season the yr before, but hes on pace for less than 60 pts, and thats not good for a 9mil player.

    At 31 hes not falling off a cliff, but I somehow doubt he gets back to a ppg pace ever again and for 9 mil thats not good value.
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    26 mars à 12 h 43
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    I would simply keep him and have him score 25-30 goals on the 3rd line
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    26 mars à 12 h 50
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    Hawks wouldn't consider it as anything less than a significant cap dump meaning, Buffalo would have to offer quite a bit to gain their interest. I also don't think Buffalo is in the same mindset so they are probably better off keeping him.
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    26 mars à 13 h 30
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    Quoting: BUF10
    Full no move clause it wouldn’t matter.


    Someone read the description.
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    26 mars à 13 h 32
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    Quoting: Hammerwise
    Skinner at 9mil for 3 more yrs with a NMC is going to cost to dump.

    Yes he was a ppg last year, and has a 63 pt season the yr before, but hes on pace for less than 60 pts, and thats not good for a 9mil player.

    At 31 hes not falling off a cliff, but I somehow doubt he gets back to a ppg pace ever again and for 9 mil thats not good value.


    Skinner is classically/historically inconsistent. His point totals fluctuate wildly. It’s tough to say if he’s aging and slowing down or if this is just one of his down seasons and we see the return of the 30 goal/60 point player next year.
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    26 mars à 14 h 14
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Hawks wouldn't consider it as anything less than a significant cap dump meaning, Buffalo would have to offer quite a bit to gain their interest. I also don't think Buffalo is in the same mindset so they are probably better off keeping him.


    BUF prospect pool is pretty loaded and they're also getting close to ready to compete. I'm wondering if they'd move off of a 1st round pick or one of their prospects to clear this space. I see incentive for BUF both in clearing the money and a top 9 F roster spot. Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund are all high draft picks who are pretty close to NHL ready; on top of Benson, Quinn, and Peterka who are already here. BUF already moved off Mitts to clear room, maybe they do it with skinner also. I wouldn't do it from the hawks POV unless we got a decent asset in return of course
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    26 mars à 20 h 32
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    BUF prospect pool is pretty loaded and they're also getting close to ready to compete. I'm wondering if they'd move off of a 1st round pick or one of their prospects to clear this space. I see incentive for BUF both in clearing the money and a top 9 F roster spot. Savoie, Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund are all high draft picks who are pretty close to NHL ready; on top of Benson, Quinn, and Peterka who are already here. BUF already moved off Mitts to clear room, maybe they do it with skinner also. I wouldn't do it from the hawks POV unless we got a decent asset in return of course


    We traded mittelstadt for a top pairing defensemen. We didn't dump him
    26 mars à 20 h 37
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    We traded mittelstadt for a top pairing defensemen. We didn't dump him


    Right and we agree that Mitts and Skinner are a completely situation in terms of their value right? One is a 24 year old for 2.5M on pace for 60-70 pts and the other is a 33 year old making 9M for 3 more years on pace for point totals in the 50s. I was just making the point that Buf moved out a F to make a spot for one of the guys I mentioned above. Not sure what the point of your comment is
    27 mars à 4 h 29
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    Quoting: Jco5ta5
    Skinner is classically/historically inconsistent. His point totals fluctuate wildly. It’s tough to say if he’s aging and slowing down or if this is just one of his down seasons and we see the return of the 30 goal/60 point player next year.


    Very true, but for 60 pts you shouldn;t be looking at a 9mil cap hit, thats why I dont think he has value ALONE. You'd have to take a cap dump or add something or value for someone to take that, and ultimately theres players with higher upsides or youth not getting in there.

    The fact that Mittelstadt was a agonizing decision to trade a 60+ pt player 24 yr old partly due to cap issues is a direct correlation to Skinner getting 9mil. No problem with the Byram swap, but what happens if Quinn and JJP put up a ppg in a contract year and both want a 5mil+ contract, will Sabres have to consider moving one of them because they dont have the money/cap?
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    27 mars à 9 h 56
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    (If owner wasn't cheap) Retain $2m for remaining 3 years & add a 3rd or 4th pick or equivalent, would be my pitch.
     
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