Did that line score or do anything positive that game

No

The only line to contribute offense was...The 4th line

Kampf, Reaves, and Dewar so far have more playoff points than Matthews, Domi, Marner, Bertuzzi this series. Since last playoffs Leafs in 8 playoff games have not scored above 2 goals....

And last night we saw it again but this time that new supposed super line just paraded itself to the box lul. With the only memorable shift for Matthews being he missed on an empty net.

The real stuff we saw 4 lazy bad penalties between the 3 of them = unacceptable especially for Bertuzzi and Matthews, control your sticks better. This is peewee hockey basics 101

Dont know why your saying that line was good and did stuff when it didnt. They allowed more High Danger chances than they generated, didnt outshoot anyone 7 to 7, had the lowest XGF of the 4 lines with 54.39%. Only little thing is scoring chances for with 8 but oh wait scoring chances allowed 6. So a minimal differential. Least the Robertson line had a better differential of 6 to 2

And for Domi especially he better get his act together or he's either 1. Getting suspended or 2. Not finishing this series with Matthews thats 100% for sure

Did that line score or do anything positive that game

No

The only line to contribute offense was...The 4th line

Kampf, Reaves, and Dewar so far have more playoff points than Matthews, Domi, Marner, Bertuzzi this series. Since last playoffs Leafs in 8 playoff games have not scored above 2 goals....

And last night we saw it again but this time that new supposed super line just paraded itself to the box lul. With the only memorable shift for Matthews being he missed on an empty net.

The real stuff we saw 4 lazy bad penalties between the 3 of them = unacceptable especially for Bertuzzi and Matthews, control your sticks better. This is peewee hockey basics 101

Dont know why your saying that line was good and did stuff when it didnt. They allowed more High Danger chances than they generated, didnt outshoot anyone 7 to 7, had the lowest XGF of the 4 lines with 54.39%. Only little thing is scoring chances for with 8 but oh wait scoring chances allowed 6. So a minimal differential. Least the Robertson line had a better differential of 6 to 2

And for Domi especially he better get his act together or he's either 1. Getting suspended or 2. Not finishing this series with Matthews thats 100% for sure

Yes... Matthews, post... Bert and Domi had chances in front of the net...

Matthews got shots but was unlucky...

You attacking the only positive line is stupid... They had the most chances and started with constant pressure

Bert-Matthews-Domi
McMann-JT-Nylander
Knies-Holmberg-Robertson/Marner, deepening on if Marner's actually willing to play hard or not
Dewar-Kampf-Reaves

The chances for was 8 the chances allowed was 6

Again there was nothing positive

Only thing we got was a parade to the penalty box and 2 of those lead to Bruin goals

Thats really it

And actually if we look at positive lines the only one surprisingly despite the bullying it took were the 3rd and 4th lines. And of those 4th line only one to put a puck behind Swayman.



Again its silly to defend them after that performance. If they dont improve game 2 they should be split especially if Domi takes multiple stupid penalty

Further putting Marner on the third line is silly especially when we see Willy might be dealing with something. Marner's playmaking is best suited for JT or Matthews not Holmberg

Your targeting of him but praise of Matthews that game is silly as neither were good lul.

That shows you why he's not worth what he is and shows the reasoning behind why he should on L3; he dependent on JT and AM...

Bc Matthews at least gave a sh1t lul... You can tell based on each other's forechecks and during scrums, who's more involved and who played better...

It looked like Matthews was trying to get going, Marner didn't care

Which lead to the penalties, out of carelessness and frustration...

Its not its the playstyle

Marner is a playmaking wing how you get the maximum worth of his skills = playing him with a good center. With Holmberg its just a waste

Willy is a goal scorer who cares who his wings are. Look at Domi Matthews is utilizing his playmaking to the max like he was for Marner

Like how he used it when he had time with Matthews and JT? Combined 0 goals when Marner played with them these past few games...

Look at Robertson, he's earned the right to play top 9 minutes, Marner hasn't earned the right to play with Matthews or JT...

you have to earn it, wasting playoffs games doesn't work for SC champs

And yet Marner produced and helped others like McMann who was on his line with JT score when he got back in the reg season hmmm I wonder. Like its a losing argument at this point for yah

Since he returned from injury Marner scored a goal and had 8 assists. He's earned his keep

He almost helped Matthews in the FLA game get one on the PP and in TBL almost helped him but he hit the crossbar lul.

Robertson yes has earned top 9min but not at the expense of Marner dont be silly.

Yesterday Matthews had one dangerous chance and hit the post then took a dumb offensive zone penalty and came out with 0 goals and assists thats it. Marner and JT also came out with no points but hey didnt take a dumb penalty and Marner for the most part had to try and clean the top lines messes

In the end Matthews is the highest paid guy on this team, Matthews is the man whose supposed to be scoring the goals and leading this team to a cup like MacKinnon did for AVS, OVI did for WSH, etc. As onex put it "bottom line is the stars have to score. It's why they get the big bucks and if the stats line is going to be zero, zero, zero, good luck winning anything". He's been called the future captain and is gonna be the highest paid guy on the team and NHL soon go show it. Marner also has to but he should not be relied upon more so than Matthews lul.

You think his lines doing well you do you but if they have another game like game 1 god help them especially Matthews

Again, you are completely ignoring any of Marner's deficiencies during G1 or during G81-G82... And go right in on Matthews... Should Matthews have been better? Yes

But Matthews was doing good things that he can build off of...

I can remember moments from each of JT, Robertson, Matthews, Bert and Domi for forwards...

I can't say the same for Marner... As the 3rd highest paid player

Nobody cares games 81-82 as the only thing TOR tried to do was get Matthews 70

They werent playing serious we saw it first hand in the FLA game lul

Lady luck was not on Matthews side and they just went into the playoffs with the wrong momentum

Keefe was right it = distraction

And yet Matthews didn't score 70... Conveniently when Domi was off his line for injuries... hmmmm

Like how he used it when he had time with Matthews and JT? Combined 0 goals when Marner played with them these past few games...

Look at Robertson, he's earned the right to play top 9 minutes, Marner hasn't earned the right to play with Matthews or JT...

you have to earn it, wasting playoffs games doesn't work for SC champs

Hit multiple posts and missed a golden opportunity on Stolarz. Again Marner being there makes 0 diff

He couldnt get one on TBL's #3 no matter whose on your line 0 excuse for that one. Crossbar, posts, east stops wasnt meant to be

Like how he used it when he had time with Matthews and JT? Combined 0 goals when Marner played with them these past few games...

Look at Robertson, he's earned the right to play top 9 minutes, Marner hasn't earned the right to play with Matthews or JT...

you have to earn it, wasting playoffs games doesn't work for SC champs

That's as ridiculous as the argument you are disagreeing with here. The last 2 games of the regular season when Matthews didn't score, he had loads of chances, while playing with Marner but didn't score. It was just luck.

Marner is a world class playmaker and makes his linemates better. Yeah he does have his issues between the ears, he's definitely the most fragile of the core players. But to suggest he's anything but an incredible player is silly. He is best utilized with shooters. Give him McMann and JT, he'll get the most offense out of them. Willy I would argue is actually better than Marner (when he wants to be) and can just do more by himself. Give him his own line and he'll cause a lot of matchup problems. Matthews makes Domi and Bertuzzi better, Marner will get the maximum out of JT and Willy can feast on 3rd liners. Or he'll be so good, Marner and JT gets 3rd liners and then they will feast. Putting Marner with Holmberg and whoever will eliminate so much offensive potential from the lineup. Give Marner a guy who scores a lot and JT scores more than anyone not named Matthews or Nylander.

That's as ridiculous as the argument you are disagreeing with here. The last 2 games of the regular season when Matthews didn't score, he had loads of chances, while playing with Marner but didn't score. It was just luck.

Marner is a world class playmaker and makes his linemates better. Yeah he does have his issues between the ears, he's definitely the most fragile of the core players. But to suggest he's anything but an incredible player is silly. He is best utilized with shooters. Give him McMann and JT, he'll get the most offense out of them. Willy I would argue is actually better than Marner (when he wants to be) and can just do more by himself. Give him his own line and he'll cause a lot of matchup problems. Matthews makes Domi and Bertuzzi better, Marner will get the maximum out of JT and Willy can feast on 3rd liners. Or he'll be so good, Marner and JT gets 3rd liners and then they will feast. Putting Marner with Holmberg and whoever will eliminate so much offensive potential from the lineup. Give Marner a guy who scores a lot and JT scores more than anyone not named Matthews or Nylander.

Marner certainly didn't have a bad game, I didn't really notice much from him. Tried a few passes in front but he wasn't bad in would say.

Frankly, Marner hasn't earned it over Willy, over Robertson, over Knies...

He's not a rookie anymore, he's getting out hustled and outplayed bc of it... Put him on his own line and say; "You get to work your way up; just like everyone else"

Sick and tired of this fanbase making excuse after excuse for the worst player out of the 5 in the playoffs, game after game

Again... Off topic, Marner wasn't playable in G1 and shouldn't be given preferential treatment over a guy like Domi or Knies when it comes to wingers for JT and Matthews...

To me if you criticize Marner you need to criticize Matthews as its only fair

Game 1 neither was good and of the two Matthews entire line taking 4 penalties and him missing that empty net was more noticeable than Marner appearing and disappearing

If their is one guy you want in a playoff series vs. BOS its Marner

The last time Marner faced BOS in the playoffs in 2019 he was a monster, get that guy back and have Matthews contribute were set

Frankly, Marner hasn't earned it over Willy, over Robertson, over Knies...

He's not a rookie anymore, he's getting out hustled and outplayed bc of it... Put him on his own line and say; "You get to work your way up; just like everyone else"

Sick and tired of this fanbase making excuse after excuse for the worst player out of the 5 in the playoffs, game after game

You kind of contradicted yourself, if Marner's game is being flashy with the passes and noticeable, if he wasn't that, he's not forechecking, he's not in scrums... PK was awful, again, so what is he doing?

Anyways game 2 everyone top to bottom needs to show up and be better

Otherwise we go no where

This especially applies to the big 4 and whenever Willy gets back

I almost want them to just change how they play to a complete shutdown style of play. Wait for them to make a mistake vs them waiting for us to do so.