Pretty sure there’s bad blood between Buch and NYR, so I doubt he would waive

Blues decline both trades, I don’t mind Kakko being in a package but I’d want some more actual value

If you were to put a value on Kakko in the form of a draft pick what would it be?

Rangers pass.

This. Trading Buch for a 3C and 3RW ain't on. I'd take both those players any day, but not like this.

probably like a 3rd maybe a late 2nd ish

mid 2nd

Ok, so make the 1st and a 2nd. Decent for a rental player who’s a winger.

Obviously I’d want more but Kakko, a first, a 2nd would probably be fair value in the offseason

So a 1st and two 2nds for Buch

Basically

Fair enough. Not going to argue the value because is could very well go slightly above or below that. However Maybe only have a 1st in 25’ and 26’ and a 3rd to deal. Therefore it’s the wrong destination. But a destination that can give Buch term could very well go two 1sts+

We got a late 1st & 4th for lil Nils Lundkvist. Kakko would haul in more, don't kid yourself

Buch would be a pure rental next, as we and probably most, do not want to pay his retirement term. Pass on either trades.

💯 agree. 👍🏼

More than a 2nd? Yea no shot he draws in more. Dude has been underperforming his whole career. Only thing that saves his value is his defensive ability

Chytil Laf Buch all played scared then woke up, same here, with just as much upside. Coaches love him and gms would be bidding, don't fool yourself with tabloids

I’m not saying he can’t but 99% of the time when a player stalls he’s traded for that value not for what he could be