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Créé par: mvp13
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2024
Publié: 7 mars 2024
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I'm so mad NYR said no to this. But Ducks wanted a 1st + Kakko for Henrique + Vatrano. How does that feel with all of your insane over-valuing?

Wennberg to EDM is obviously hypothetical and not real. NYR wouldn't have needed 75% retention, but too much work to reverse. NYR maybe add a minor pick/prospect for Vatrano retention.

Source: https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1765749162665025817
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7 mars à 10 h 16
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You’re mad because the rangers correctly passed on that offer? Lol
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You’re mad because the rangers correctly passed on that offer? Lol


Vatrano for 2 years > an injured Guentzal for 1 post season + whatever Kakko does next year. Besides the fact Jake might end up costing Kakko, anyway.

Henrique > Wennberg by at least seven dozen country miles.

And I mainly just want to shove it where the sun doesn't shine on these absolutely annoying Ducks people
7 mars à 10 h 20
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Vatrano for 2 years > an injured Guentzal for 1 post season + whatever Kakko does next year. Besides the fact Jake might end up costing Kakko, anyway.

Henrique > Wennberg by at least seven dozen country miles.


Vatrano and Henrique both aren’t good in my eyes

But at least Wennberg didn’t cost a 1st to get lol…
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Vatrano and Henrique both aren’t good in my eyes

But at least Wennberg didn’t cost a 1st to get lol…


Well I'm not gonna argue with ya, this is mainly for telling Ducks fans to ligma.

But Jake is gonna cost a 1st + Othmann or Kakko considerinf the bidding war going on right now, so I would have rathered to have Vatrano for term reasons, even if he's not as good.
7 mars à 10 h 26
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Well I'm not gonna argue with ya, this is mainly for telling Ducks fans to ligma.

But Jake is gonna cost a 1st + Othmann or Kakko considerinf the bidding war going on right now, so I would have rathered to have Vatrano for term reasons, even if he's not as good.


Vatrano is still gonna cost 1st + prospect when Guentzel is the way better player and cost a bit more

Only benefit is Vatrano has term…that is his only benefit
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Well I'm not gonna argue with ya, this is mainly for telling Ducks fans to ligma.

But Jake is gonna cost a 1st + Othmann or Kakko considerinf the bidding war going on right now, so I would have rathered to have Vatrano for term reasons, even if he's not as good.


Your idiot Ducks fan here. First, this is still just a rumor, so nobody actually knows how valid it may be

2nd, while some Ducks fans really don’t value Kakko, this isn’t that far off for me at all.

I think my proposal was

Henrique around a ‘25 1st
Vatrano slightly over Kakko
JPerreault + 2nd slightly less than Othmann
7 mars à 11 h 19
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Your idiot Ducks fan here. First, this is still just a rumor, so nobody actually knows how valid it may be

2nd, while some Ducks fans really don’t value Kakko, this isn’t that far off for me at all.

I think my proposal for the two was

Henrique ~ ‘25 1st
Vatrano ~> Kakko
JPerreault +2nd ~


I don't know what a JPerreault is, but if you're referring to Gabe Perrault that is an obvious no and would have been included there. That's very far off. I can see the 2nd or B prospect (Berard, etc) for Vatrano retention.

It's also really funny how we only call these insider things rumors when they don't follow our narrative. They've been right on everything so far
7 mars à 11 h 33
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Henrique > Wennberg by at least seven dozen country miles.

This is true.
7 mars à 11 h 47
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Ducks offered Henrique+Vatrano to the Rangers for the same package and the Rangers said no according to Emily Kaplan. Take out Kakko and add a prospect like Sykora, Robertson and Bryce McConell-Barker and that probably gets it done.
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I don't know what a JPerreault is, but if you're referring to Gabe Perrault that is an obvious no and would have been included there. That's very far off. I can see the 2nd or B prospect (Berard, etc) for Vatrano retention.

It's also really funny how we only call these insider things rumors when they don't follow our narrative. They've been right on everything so far


Oops looks like the end got cut off, I just updated it. Jacob Perreault is Gabe’s brother, an ANA prospect from the late first round in 2020. I’m fully aware we have zero shot of acquiring Gabe for any of these way older assets. That’d be a pipe dream.

If the rumor is true that NYR turned that trade down I was still off on value favoring ANA, but probably not too dramatically. I thought Henrique was worth a smidge more than a ‘25 1st, Vatrano (retained at the time) was a smidge more than Kakko, and then JPerreault + 2nd was a bit less than Oth to offset those
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Oops looks like the end got cut off, I just updated it. Jacob Perreault is Gabe’s brother, an ANA prospect from the late first round in 2020. I’m fully aware we have zero shot of acquiring Gabe for any of these way older assets. That’d be a pipe dream.

If the rumor is true that NYR turned that trade down I was still off on value favoring ANA, but probably not too dramatically. I thought Henrique was worth a smidge more than a ‘25 1st, Vatrano (retained at the time) was a smidge more than Kakko, and then JPerreault + 2nd was a bit less than Oth to offset those


Apologies for the ignorance on my end, that trade with MTL came in a little after my post and I had to face palm myself for the misunderstanding haha. Meant to come back and edit as well. Such is life
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Apologies for the ignorance on my end, that trade with MTL came in a little after my post and I had to face palm myself for the misunderstanding haha. Meant to come back and edit as well. Such is life


He was like a C+ prospect for the Ducks. I’d be more surprised if you knew him than if you didn’t, haha. And more confusing since his brother is an Tanger prospect. All good!
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