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Parayko

Créé par: CakeEaterBanks
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 mars 2024
Publié: 5 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
No retention for Parayko
2.
TOR
  1. Ferraro, Mario (1 625 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Lagesson, William
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
2027 2nd
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2024
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2026
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2283 500 000 $82 922 283 $0 $0 $577 717 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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5 mars à 13 h 7
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Counteroffer. Parayko and Thomas 50% retained for Brodie and a 7th
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
5 mars à 13 h 8
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5 mars à 13 h 14
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There seems to be some mistake. Clearly, you meant this as an offer for Krug or Leddy.
5 mars à 13 h 21
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You're willing to pay a 1st and a 2nd for Ferraro yet you stuff him on the 3rd pair. You pay a 5th and a contract for parayko and stick him on the first pair.

Regardless Blues jump at that offer. Probably the best of the 50 i've seen in the last month.
5 mars à 13 h 37
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Quoting: Tennisman142
Counteroffer. Parayko and Thomas 50% retained for Brodie and a 7th


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Dear god


Quoting: mokumboi
There seems to be some mistake. Clearly, you meant this as an offer for Krug or Leddy.


How many teams are lining up to take Parayko contract?

Not that many. Toronto takes all the risk and you get 6.5 million in cap space in the offseason
5 mars à 13 h 39
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You're willing to pay a 1st and a 2nd for Ferraro yet you stuff him on the 3rd pair. You pay a 5th and a contract for parayko and stick him on the first pair.

Regardless Blues jump at that offer. Probably the best of the 50 i've seen in the last month.


More about balancing out the pairs having a more balanced defensive group.

As well no to many team will give up a lot for Parayko especially with his contract. The most valuable asset STL gets is 6.5 million in cap space in the offseason.
5 mars à 13 h 43
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Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
More about balancing out the pairs having a more balanced defensive group.

As well no to many team will give up a lot for Parayko especially with his contract. The most valuable asset STL gets is 6.5 million in cap space in the offseason.


6.5 million for what? By most calculations you aren't going to find a top pair defenseman for 6.5m in UFA. So what you've done is you've given us a boat load of risk and some cap space, probably around 9 million in cap space to find a full top pairing. And you haven't cleared the cap space that we need to clear in Krug
5 mars à 13 h 52
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How many teams are lining up to take Parayko contract?

Not that many. Toronto takes all the risk and you get 6.5 million in cap space in the offseason


What on Earth are you babbling about? Just for starters, teams are calling on Parayko constantly, for years on end now. More importantly, where exactly is there a scintilla of risk for the Leafs here?

But hey, we get cap space! You guys need to watch some hockey. Stat.
5 mars à 13 h 58
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6.5 million for what? By most calculations you aren't going to find a top pair defenseman for 6.5m in UFA. So what you've done is you've given us a boat load of risk and some cap space, probably around 9 million in cap space to find a full top pairing. And you haven't cleared the cap space that we need to clear in Krug


He isn’t a top pair defenceman at the moment. He was and Toronto is hoping he will be.

That’s like saying Kevin Hayes is a 2nd line centre because he had 54 points last year.
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What on Earth are you babbling about? Just for starters, teams are calling on Parayko constantly, for years on end now. More importantly, where exactly is there a scintilla of risk for the Leafs here?

But hey, we get cap space! You guys need to watch some hockey. Stat.


No there isn’t. Only Toronto is. The other teams is the media being fed by Doug Armstrong.

Gotta read between the lines.
5 mars à 14 h 1
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No there isn’t. Only Toronto is. The other teams is the media being fed by Doug Armstrong.

Gotta read between the lines.


The only thing you're reading apparently is random beat writers just hoping for clicks

Parayko is not available. Plain and simple. Look elsewhere for a defenseman. Like Calgary or Philly. Go annoy those fan bases
5 mars à 14 h 4
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No there isn’t. Only Toronto is. The other teams is the media being fed by Doug Armstrong.

Gotta read between the lines.


And by read between the lines, you mean do a Herculean mound of coke... right?
5 mars à 14 h 8
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Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
He isn’t a top pair defenceman at the moment. He was and Toronto is hoping he will be.

That’s like saying Kevin Hayes is a 2nd line centre because he had 54 points last year.


Then don't trade for him? 99% of us are completely happy with him as a top pairing defenseman, you don't believe he is don't inquire. He's never going to be an analytics top guy, he's not used in a role that you need to be used in to be so. He's on a team with very inconsistent play from secondary forwards, in a role where he is used almost every defensive zone draw we have against any line aside from the 4th line. Almost all analytical data leans a lot on offensive output. He's not Cale Makar, and he's not playing with Auston Matthews or McDavid, and he's rarely starting a shift in the offensive zone. The sickening part is most analytics have shown Faulk or Krug as better than him
5 mars à 14 h 54
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6.5 million for what? By most calculations you aren't going to find a top pair defenseman for 6.5m in UFA. So what you've done is you've given us a boat load of risk and some cap space, probably around 9 million in cap space to find a full top pairing. And you haven't cleared the cap space that we need to clear in Krug


He hasn’t been a top pairing dman for better part of 2 years.

If the leafs had that contract you’d be asking for a kings ransom in return to take that contract lmfaoo
5 mars à 14 h 57
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Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
How many teams are lining up to take Parayko contract?

Not that many. Toronto takes all the risk and you get 6.5 million in cap space in the offseason


I mean the blues don't want to move him so other teams lining up to take him doesn't change anything
5 mars à 15 h 35
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He hasn’t been a top pairing dman for better part of 2 years.

If the leafs had that contract you’d be asking for a kings ransom in return to take that contract lmfaoo


Again, if he’s so bad and the contract is that bad, why entertain the proposal?

It’s the same thing over and over again. I get if you’re just seeing something and seeing how it works. But in general to my understanding when you publish something on here you want input/discussion.

If your stance is he’s so bad you guys wouldn’t even take him for free. And all of us are saying the Blues aren’t and can’t trade him what does that tell you?
5 mars à 15 h 47
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Quoting: AC14
Again, if he’s so bad and the contract is that bad, why entertain the proposal?

It’s the same thing over and over again. I get if you’re just seeing something and seeing how it works. But in general to my understanding when you publish something on here you want input/discussion.

If your stance is he’s so bad you guys wouldn’t even take him for free. And all of us are saying the Blues aren’t and can’t trade him what does that tell you?


What did Bret burns go for?

You can’t even tell me cause that’s how little the return was. Expect the same for Parayko once he is moved
5 mars à 15 h 49
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I mean the blues don't want to move him so other teams lining up to take him doesn't change anything


They’ve openly said they’re trying to move out salary on the back end.

No team wants krug (plus he veto any trade he’s involved in like last year), scandella and Faulk.

St. Louis isn’t in a position to give up assets
5 mars à 16 h 25
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What did Bret burns go for?

You can’t even tell me cause that’s how little the return was. Expect the same for Parayko once he is moved


Did the Sharks full teardown? Are the Blues in a full teardown?

There's a point to where simply answering Parayko can't be traded just doesn't click for some of y'all and it's beyond incomprehensible. You seem to dip and dodge the questions most of the time and live in this idiotic notion that we are all asking for the world as opposed to saying he's not being traded or we can't trade him without a young replacement etc being brought back in return.

Now I apologize if that isn't the case in a couple of instances, but basing off the fact You've been on this site for the past two years I'm sure you've read one of the other 100 of these Parayko to Toronto threads that end the same way and should've gotten the point by now.

We are not in a position of full tearing down. We are not in a position of being able to trade Parayko and not full tear down. Thus there is no logical trade in which trading Parayko would make sense for the Blues unless we are just getting a younger defenseman that's a shutdown defenseman with a projectible path towards being a top pairing guy. Which Toronto does not have.
5 mars à 17 h 18
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Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
They’ve openly said they’re trying to move out salary on the back end.

No team wants krug (plus he veto any trade he’s involved in like last year), scandella and Faulk.

St. Louis isn’t in a position to give up assets


Yeah the salary they want to move is Faulk/Krug/Scandella and not Parayko. He's the one they want to keep and build around.
 
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