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Markstrom staying put

Créé par: glaive
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 29 févr. 2024
Publié: 29 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
"We want to send a message to the rest of the team"

"...just ignore that we traded 3 core players away.."
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29 févr. à 17 h 25
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Yeah, I don't get it
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29 févr. à 17 h 26
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Yeah, I don't get it


I get the whole sentiment of wanting to remain competitive, but maybe don't backtrack after selling 3 big pieces away? Just a weird move
29 févr. à 17 h 28
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You put Wolf behind Markstrom, it likely helps with Wolf’s development. How much did NJ want retained?
29 févr. à 17 h 29
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You put Wolf behind Markstrom, it likely helps with Wolf’s development. How much did NJ want retained?


No idea but I think a million would be decent.
29 févr. à 17 h 29
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There was one buyer.
A monopsony.
CGY didn’t have price-setting power
No leverage.

And since that single buyer was trying to buy Hanifin and Markstrom as package, Conroy had to decouple them so he didn’t drag down his Hanifin return.
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29 févr. à 17 h 31
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You put Wolf behind Markstrom, it likely helps with Wolf’s development. How much did NJ want retained?


“2-3 million” was the latest
29 févr. à 17 h 33
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There was one buyer.
A monopsony.
CGY didn’t have price-setting power
No leverage.

And since that single buyer was trying to buy Hanifin and Markstrom as package, Conroy had to decouple them so he didn’t drag down his Hanifin return.


I'd bite the bullet and retain on Markstrom and take the young scoring winger with a pretty decent upside over not making the playoffs and risking Markstrom falling off because he's old.

The team will probably be retooling the next few seasons anyway, the retention slot isn't a big deal.
29 févr. à 17 h 35
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Quoting: glaive
I'd bite the bullet and retain on Markstrom and take the young scoring winger with a pretty decent upside over not making the playoffs and risking Markstrom falling off because he's old.

The team will probably be retooling the next few seasons anyway, the retention slot isn't a big deal.


Who knows, maybe Conroy saw what flames fans were convinced they'd get.

Would flames fans be more pissed expecting 1st+Holtz+Casey and getting no trade or expecting that and getting Holtz for a 2 mill retained Markstrom.
29 févr. à 17 h 37
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Who knows, maybe Conroy saw what flames fans were convinced they'd get.

Would flames fans be more pissed expecting 1st+Holtz+Casey and getting no trade or expecting that and getting Holtz for a 2 mill retained Markstrom.


I'd imagine there might have been more pieces involved that we probably don't know about. Maybe another mid-ish round pick for retention.

Conroy shouldn't worry about fan service and do what's right for the team. If Markstrom gets a 1st+ this offseason, I'll admit I'm wrong. But until then, I think it was a pretty crappy decision.
29 févr. à 17 h 39
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I'd bite the bullet and retain on Markstrom and take the young scoring winger with a pretty decent upside over not making the playoffs and risking Markstrom falling off because he's old.

The team will probably be retooling the next few seasons anyway, the retention slot isn't a big deal.


There must be another side to it…if he wanted to sell Markstrom as standalone piece a couple of weeks ago, and got his asking price from NJD, only reason I can think it didn’t happen was buyer wanted another piece involved. Especially since the original story of owners nixing retention seems to have been debunked.
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I'd imagine there might have been more pieces involved that we probably don't know about. Maybe another mid-ish round pick for retention.

Conroy shouldn't worry about fan service and do what's right for the team. If Markstrom gets a 1st+ this offseason, I'll admit I'm wrong. But until then, I think it was a pretty crappy decision.


I expect NJD wanted Hanifin as well.
29 févr. à 17 h 49
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There must be another side to it…if he wanted to sell Markstrom as standalone piece a couple of weeks ago, and got his asking price from NJD, only reason I can think it didn’t happen was buyer wanted another piece involved. Especially since the original story of owners nixing retention seems to have been debunked.


I can also think of another reason. Markstrom decided against NJ with his NMC. Lots of reasons to pass when you consider non hockey related reasons
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I can also think of another reason. Markstrom decided against NJ with his NMC. Lots of reasons to pass when you consider non hockey related reasons


Apparently he had no problem waiving it
29 févr. à 19 h 36
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Apparently he had no problem waiving it


The one thing that is true about this time of season is opinions change when things get closer
 
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