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Créé par: noted
Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 28 févr. 2024
Publié: 28 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
2775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Broberg, Philip [Droits de RFA]
  2. Holloway, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
24 TDL
whatever 1 year contract EDM wants to send back to make cap work - Janmark or Foegele
EDM
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
24 TDL
Sundqvist - $775k
Rosen - $762k
(copied from Oliers fan AGM)
2.
OTT
  1. Dvorsky, Dalibor
  2. Hofer, Joel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (STL)
3.
STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Perunovich, Scott [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
4.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de DAL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
2025
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2026
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $86 901 309 $0 $412 500 $798 691 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
835 833 $835 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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28 févr. à 17 h 6
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I’d rather give away Kyrou than Dvorsky in a trade to Ottawa. Much rather have a 2nd line center with upside.
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28 févr. à 17 h 7
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I get what the Edmonton trade is going for and I know that Holloway and Broberg both were drafted with a lot of pedigree but if we're trading and retaining half of Buchnevich- plus Sundqvist- I feel like the return has to be greater than two guys who will be 23 years old by the time the puck drops next season and can't consistently stick in an NHL lineup- two guys that Edmonton barely has a use for anymore. They're getting to that weird part of the development curve where if they haven't shown even flashes of being impact NHLers they're probably not going to be much of ones at this point.
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28 févr. à 17 h 19
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I’d rather give away Kyrou than Dvorsky in a trade to Ottawa. Much rather have a 2nd line center with upside.


It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a "win now" move like trading for Tkachuk while subtracting a bunch of other "win now" pieces in their prime like Kyrou (and frankly, Buchnevich). You don't want to trade for Brady and then still just be a playoff bubble team.

I get why Brady is so coveted- intangibles, fighting, looks like cares out there, whatever- but it's not exactly like he's been dragging an arguably stronger group of forwards in Ottawa to victory, he's had more help than this agm-roster is giving him and he's not even PPG. Effort and reputation is going to affect a lot of opinions but strictly speaking about his on ice results- he's much closer to a Kyrou level player than most people would care to admit- Decent score but you always feel like there should be more there and he gives a lot of it back the other way.
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28 févr. à 17 h 20
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
I get what the Edmonton trade is going for and I know that Holloway and Broberg both were drafted with a lot of pedigree but if we're trading and retaining half of Buchnevich- plus Sundqvist- I feel like the return has to be greater than two guys who will be 23 years old by the time the puck drops next season and can't consistently stick in an NHL lineup- two guys that Edmonton barely has a use for anymore. They're getting to that weird part of the development curve where if they haven't shown even flashes of being impact NHLers they're probably not going to be much of ones at this point.


Kyrou didn't really do anything in the NHL until his 22-23 year old season. I still like their upside but understand.
28 févr. à 17 h 23
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a "win now" move like trading for Tkachuk while subtracting a bunch of other "win now" pieces in their prime like Kyrou (and frankly, Buchnevich). You don't want to trade for Brady and then still just be a playoff bubble team.

I get why Brady is so coveted- intangibles, fighting, looks like cares out there, whatever- but he's not exactly like he's been dragging an objectively stronger group of forwards in Ottawa to victory, he's had more help than this agm-roster is giving him and he's not even PPG.


This is supposed to be a picture of the Blues selling at this year's deadline and then trying to win next season. Some Blues fans are not happy if I propose trading Kyrou for Tkachuk. Some are not happy if I propose Dvorsky and pick. Same for Sens fans and understandably in their case.
28 févr. à 17 h 24
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I’d rather give away Kyrou than Dvorsky in a trade to Ottawa. Much rather have a 2nd line center with upside.


I agree with this but bunch of Blues fans didn't like and Sens fans said Kyrou doesn't fit their roster.
28 févr. à 19 h 35
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a "win now" move like trading for Tkachuk while subtracting a bunch of other "win now" pieces in their prime like Kyrou (and frankly, Buchnevich). You don't want to trade for Brady and then still just be a playoff bubble team.

I get why Brady is so coveted- intangibles, fighting, looks like cares out there, whatever- but it's not exactly like he's been dragging an arguably stronger group of forwards in Ottawa to victory, he's had more help than this agm-roster is giving him and he's not even PPG. Effort and reputation is going to affect a lot of opinions but strictly speaking about his on ice results- he's much closer to a Kyrou level player than most people would care to admit- Decent score but you always feel like there should be more there and he gives a lot of it back the other way.


Yeah I think I’d be more on board to sign Tkachuk as a free agent when he is done in Ottawa or wherever he gets dealt. I think that would be a great addition to the core when everyone is buzzing around 2028-29 season.
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28 févr. à 21 h 33
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Yeah I think I’d be more on board to sign Tkachuk as a free agent when he is done in Ottawa or wherever he gets dealt. I think that would be a great addition to the core when everyone is buzzing around 2028-29 season.


I agree. I think trying to sign either Tkachuk would be much better than trading for them.
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28 févr. à 21 h 36
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I agree. I think trying to sign either Tkachuk would be much better than trading for them.


Sigh - then he will never be a Blue
28 févr. à 21 h 39
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I agree. I think trying to sign either Tkachuk would be much better than trading for them.


I think Brady would be more likely to sign with his connection with Thomas. They are close in age too so I can see a 7 year deal for Tkachuk when his current deal expires and time Thomas’ next contract extension to have them retire together in St. Louis
28 févr. à 21 h 40
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Sigh - then he will never be a Blue


Maybe not and that is fine. They get to have their own careers. If they want to come as veterans though, that would honestly be maybe a cooler and more meaningful impact. If it doesn't than so be it. I just don't see it being worth it to setback our rebuild.
 
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