I think the Blues will eventually trade Kyrou. It will not be for Casey Mittelstadt though.

If St-Louis are open to trade Kyrou, take Montreal as a consideration destination.

What can be your offer ?

2 out of these 4. Blues would take bad some short term bad contracts to make salaries work. This is just me. Every other Blues fan will call me dumb. And the Habs fans are going to say no. You do have a surplus of good young dmen though which is something the Blues do not have.

Guhle
Reinbacher
Hutson
Mailloux

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If the Blues even want Mittelstadt i think Buffalo adds but i dont think its much, especially if the Blues are open/looking to move Kyrou.

I would think Buffalo adds, but what do we need a winger for, we have tons

Oh boy..... Kyrou will never gonna give to St-Louis Guhle, Reinbacher and Hutson, and a BIG maybe for Mailloux.

Montreal have also Harris and Barron, and don't expect Montreal giving up on Xhekaj. I think Barron is a better option for St-Louis.

But, Montreal are open to trade a offensive prospect like Owen Beck, who is dominant in the OHL right now. Also, expect Montreal send to St-Louis a player like Armia (with 50% on his salary) and adds somes Draft picks.

Mailloux sketches me out a little bit. I have mixed feelings about getting rid of Kyrou. I really think he isn't as bad as some people make him out be. There have been some games recently where he seemily is one of the forwards hounding for the pucks the most.

If we are trading Kyrou to make a significant impact for our Blueline then I am alright with that.

Yeah - I'm not that interested in Harris or Barron (again I'm not in charge) . And I like Mailloux but not as the centerpiece in a Kyrou trade.

I think that Buffalo would have to add quite a bit, prob making the deal spoiled.

The problem is they can’t or don’t want to get Middelstadt signed.

The blues have Kyrou signed.

All the leverage is with stl. They can walk without consequence. Meanwhile Buffalo would have to scratch one more option off a list.


I’d suggest a Kyrou Keller deal. Stl would add in that scenario.

Isn’t as bad? He’s scored at a .8 ppg pace over the last 4 years. I’ll never understand why this fan base is so quick to run a guy out of town because they don’t hit people.

I’d get it last year. He didn’t backcheck at all hardly. But he has made a very clear effort to be more involved in that regard. He’s shooting at a career low shooting percentage and is still pacing 65-70 points. Yes he over handles the puck a lot. And no I don’t love him and Rhomas on a line together either. Aside from Kapanen, he’s the only high end speed skater we have and we are a very slow team.

I swear it was the same way with Tarasenko when he was young and Perron.

I will gonna make a ACGM trade idea with Kyrou in few minutes.

If the Blues are for some idiotic reason hellbent to trade Kyrou they don’t hold all the leverage. This discussion is such a hot topic right now because he has a full NTC that goes into effect this summer.

I know, I probably didn't use the best words, which is common for me when typing. I agree with you. I like Kyrou and think people are too hard on him. That said with the amount forward depth we have coming up and the utter lack blueline prospects, I would consider moving Kyrou if we could make significant difference on the Blueline. I wouldn't trade him for the sake of "getting rid of him"

No one ever wanted to trade Tarasenko until he wanted to be traded after all of his shoulder stuff. If there was anyone, they were just a miserable person. Perron (one of my fav Blues of all time) even admitted that he had some maturing to do when he was traded. I don't want to continue to bash on Kyrou. He is a great player, but there is still at age 25 (almost 26) some disconnect between how he plays at times and how Blues leadership wants him to play.

His no trade clause does not go into effect until July 1, 2025

I just don't see a team moving a high end young defenseman for Kyrou and being able to fit him under the cap while doing so. I'd bet the closest thing that could happen in that regard would be for Chabot. Cap makes things very complicated, and i'm not exactly too sure what Chabot is. The other kicker is its going to have to be at the deadline. Because if/when there is a NTC in place unless we are just brutal there's very little way to trade this caliber of player for a return you love or that's as close to as valuable when they have a full NTC.

You are correct. Wasn't sure why I thought him and Thomas only had one season without trade protection. Changes my tune on the last comment I just made

Tarasenko went through the ringer for the same reasons Kyrou did when he was younger. Didn't backcheck, hard to play with, lack of effort etc. Hell he went through it when he was older up until I think the year before we traded him as his engagement was a little better. It's a natural growing process with younger high end offensive players. It's alot of the reason why teams like Buffalo who are loaded with them can't win, because they have too many in that ilk. Almost every cup winning team though has someone similar who is just further along in their development curve.

And Kyrou has made a clear effort this season to be more on the puck when he doesn't have it. It's very clear to see compared to last year when it was really bad. I'd agree to a degree that he doesn't fit perfectly with Thomas who is alot more of a cycle hold the puck and dish player. Buch/Thomas/Kyrou line has been a very good first line for the Blues, it's because they're all high end players. But with them all being pretty high end playmakers there's alot of overpassing that goes on which is frustrating to watch

Well, it is undeniable that Kyrou is world class at zone entries, generating offense off the rush. I don’t think he has more to prove on his strengths. Since stl got the 8 year term, the worse case is that every year going forward the deal gets better, and if the cap were to follow inflation, which it should because that’s how money works, the raises are like: 4.7 - 5.8 - 7.0 - 8.2. So in 4 years the cap goes up by his pay.

Any player signed to 8 years right now is worth a LOT*.

*as long as they haven’t experienced substantial injury or very old.

I agree that if they’re like absolutely forced by their own desires to move him then the result will suffer, but they still got the 8 years.

I was wrong in regards to timing of the NTC it's not this coming summer it's the one after. I also agree in terms of a player signed long term right now is worth quite a bit.

Sry if mine came across rude, was multitasking. My Kyrou opinion is I don’t love his style of play but I’m more than happy to have him on the team.

In my eyes, stl is short 1 forward (was Tarasenko, could have been Vrana, is just nobody).

When that is the case, you put more pressure on what you have - the opposition’s plan simplifies.

I’m okay with retool, but the lack of a legitimate top 6 is just a roster issue. Having scandella continue to act as stopgap rhd is a roster issue, resulted in 2 goals against last night due to failed breakout.

Kyrou isn’t the reason stl is where it is, shouldn’t be dumped on by sports writers or fans. The roster is the reason.

If it were filled with the adequate talent (if Vrana were sitting on 25g right now and if we had a full and appropriate defense), this team is in contention and nobody is talking about trading away young talent.

I think you may be a bit generous on this front. We're missing a 2nd line center, 2nd line RW and a top end LD. Schenn is teetering between a 2nd and 3rd line player, which is fine. Saad is a 3rd liner, Hayes is borderline a productive NHLer currently, he's more of a 3rd line scorer but we don't have linemattes that are capable. Kapanen I'm not even sure what he is this season, wouldn't be shocked if he gets waived. Our 4th line somehow has been really good. Walker - Sunny - Toropchenko have most games been our 2nd best line.

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