Could Vancouver go for Savard

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Créé par: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2024

Publié: 27 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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So Vancouver may look for a strong defenseman, if they are in talks for Tanev and miss out on the deal, could they make a move to grab Savard?

In this trade I do go on the offense in terms of being aggressive for the Vancouver Canucks to ensure they don't lose another top 4 Defense if they can't get Tanev. It may look unreasonable, but if we take into account that Savard isn't for trade, but Hugues will listen in on any of the incoming interest, he's going to ask for lots especially since Savard took a small discount to sign in Mtl and they'll most likely trade him only to a team with a real chance for the cup. With that extra year to his contract, I can see them paying a bit more in order to try and solidify their stake for another run next year, win or lose this year.

Would love to see a Toronto/Vancouver final ... Bring the cup back and give Bettman the worst nightmares of his life.

Transactions

MTL

Räty, Aatu
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)

Détails additionnels:

I know that adding Räty seems like an overpayment, but given the market if Tanev goes somewhere, I would think Vancouver would most likely want to win this trade and not go for a Plan D-E-F- or G..

So a late 1st and Räty for Savard could be the comp needed for Hugues to push on the accept button.

VAN

Savard, David
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

*3rd round pick is to compensate a bit of the disbalance of the 1st + Räty trade.

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	73 147 083 $	1 170 000 $	4 117 500 $	10 352 917 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Räty, Aatu 836 667 $836 667 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, AD RFA - 3	White, Colin 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

27 févr. à 9 h 35

my_name_is_Fil

Rejoint: nov. 2023

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sure, but when a team adds a bit to even out, its the spare 3rds, not their own. habs have two spare 3rds that they own from other teams. oone of those makes more sense

27 févr. à 9 h 40

pinslack

Rejoint: mai 2019

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I agree with your reasoning. Savard is valuable to the Habs, so he would come at a high price.

But you forgot the 50% retained salary. A lot of value comes from that

27 févr. à 9 h 50

Warpbox

Rejoint: juill. 2022

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We're paying the same for him as we did for Hronek? Easy no

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27 févr. à 10 h 42

WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: my_name_is_Fil

sure, but when a team adds a bit to even out, its the spare 3rds, not their own. habs have two spare 3rds that they own from other teams. oone of those makes more sense

Agreed, I just added MTL's since it would most likely reach a better spot for the receiving team. Gives a bit more for Räty.

27 févr. à 10 h 45

WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

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Yall gotta Chill

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Quoting: Warpbox

We're paying the same for him as we did for Hronek? Easy no

Guessing you haven't read anything above explaining why it COULD cost more for him at TDL given that he may become the more valuable player if Tanev gets moved.

COULD.. The Hornek deal is in an entirely different time and place. VAN is now in a very likely position to got for it all. They MAY want to make a move and OVERPAY ... Like I said above.. Just to be clear. And Savard's numbers are getting hammered because we have a team that's hurt, and most of them should play AHL or have been moved out but given their bad contracts are here and not helping.. So on a team like Vancouver, his stats will go way up..

27 févr. à 11 h 42

my_name_is_Fil

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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

Agreed, I just added MTL's since it would most likely reach a better spot for the receiving team. Gives a bit more for Räty.

you missed the obivous one.

vans OWN 3rd back (25')

27 févr. à 13 h 2

mv21227

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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Considering Savard isn’t better than any of our top 6 defensemen and is overpaid for next season, no thanks. Especially if the ask is Raty + a 1st, that’s absurd

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27 févr. à 20 h 44

Warpbox

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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame

If VAN wants to pay a ton of assets for a top D we'll go acquire Chychrun. 0 reason for them to pay a lot for Savard to maybe be on our third pair

27 févr. à 20 h 49

Epic_Ninja_Dude

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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In theory Vancouver could go for Savard. However, I don't think they would, especially if that's the ask. They were reportedly interested in Tanev and wanted him in the Lindholm deal, but backed out when Conroy wanted a 1st for him. My guess is that Allvin is waiting things out in the hopes that the market for Tanev doesn't materialize and he can pick him up for cheaper at the TDL (probably a 2nd and maybe a low-tier prospect). A big reason for them targeting Tanev was because Hughes went to management and specifically said that Tanev is a guy they should target to bring in. If they weren't willing to give up a 1st for a specific player they were targeting in Tanev, then there's no shot they'd give up a 1st+ for a worse player who they have no relation to.

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