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Créé par: The_Rocket
Équipe: 2024-25 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2024
Publié: 25 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Yes, another one of these
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
812 000 000 $
77 000 000 $
2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
87 000 000 $
42 250 000 $
33 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Hughes, Jack
  2. Hughes, Luke
  3. Palat, Ondrej
  4. Vanecek, Vitek
Détails additionnels:
Assume Palat waives
NJD
  1. Demko, Thatcher (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Höglander, Nils
  3. Hronek, Filip
  4. Pettersson, Elias
Détails additionnels:
Petey and hronek sogn and trade
2.
PIT
  1. Silovs, Arturs [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $87 663 334 $0 $1 850 000 $36 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
816 667 $816 667 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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25 févr. à 18 h 48
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No chance the Canucks would retain on Demko, other than that the trade isn't crazy and is something I think VAN would definitely do if EP40 doesn't sign
25 févr. à 18 h 50
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Quoting: Julius_Freezer
No chance the Canucks would retain on Demko, other than that the trade isn't crazy and is something I think VAN would definitely do if EP40 doesn't sign


NJD passes. Pettersson is going to cost 4+ mill AAV more than Jack. Let alone adding Luke in.
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25 févr. à 18 h 56
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PIT declines. Jarry can fetch a 1st.
25 févr. à 18 h 58
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The Pit trade wouldn't net you Jarry.
25 févr. à 19 h 1
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Quoting: dgibb10
NJD passes. Pettersson is going to cost 4+ mill AAV more than Jack. Let alone adding Luke in.


Say Pettersson signs for 12M and Hronek for 7M (although Hronek doesn’t really fit the Devils considering they have 3 RHD already)

Pettersson + Hoglander + Hronek + Demko with retention = 22.6M

J Hughes + Palat + L Hughes + Vanecek + Demko retention = 20.825M

You get out of 9.4M in bad cap, add top 5/6 goalie at 2.5M for 2 years, at worst a small downgrade at center, a young middle 6 winger with upside, and a top 4 RHD you can either keep over Hamilton/Marino or flip him for a good return (at worst a 1st + 2nd). New Jersey gets better here while only losing about 1.8M in cap space
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25 févr. à 19 h 2
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If you send one Petey, you have to send the other smile
25 févr. à 19 h 2
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
PIT declines. Jarry can fetch a 1st.


Silovs is one of the best G prospects in the league, him plus a 2nd is worth a lot more than a 1st
25 févr. à 19 h 6
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Say Pettersson signs for 12M and Hronek for 7M (although Hronek doesn’t really fit the Devils considering they have 3 RHD already)

Pettersson + Hoglander + Hronek + Demko with retention = 22.6M

J Hughes + Palat + L Hughes + Vanecek + Demko retention = 20.825M

You get out of 9.4M in bad cap, add top 5/6 goalie at 2.5M for 2 years, at worst a small downgrade at center, a young middle 6 winger with upside, and a top 4 RHD you can either keep over Hamilton/Marino or flip him for a good return (at worst a 1st + 2nd). New Jersey gets better here while only losing about 1.8M in cap space


I’d rather have the Jack+Luke+Palat side.
25 févr. à 19 h 10
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Quoting: dgibb10
I’d rather have the Jack+Luke+Palat side.


It’s close but I’d prefer the Pettersson+Hronek+Demko side, mainly because of the major difference in goaltending + retention on Demko. Also don’t love Palat’s contract
25 févr. à 19 h 11
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Say Pettersson signs for 12M and Hronek for 7M (although Hronek doesn’t really fit the Devils considering they have 3 RHD already)

Pettersson + Hoglander + Hronek + Demko with retention = 22.6M

J Hughes + Palat + L Hughes + Vanecek + Demko retention = 20.825M

You get out of 9.4M in bad cap, add top 5/6 goalie at 2.5M for 2 years, at worst a small downgrade at center, a young middle 6 winger with upside, and a top 4 RHD you can either keep over Hamilton/Marino or flip him for a good return (at worst a 1st + 2nd). New Jersey gets better here while only losing about 1.8M in cap space


Hughes for Pettersson+Demko retained maybe.

Let’s assume Hughes and Pettersson are equal and Pettersson gets the low end of 12 mill (I’d rather have Hughes and Pettersson will get more). That’s a 24 mill gap in value bc of the contract differences. 3 years of Demko let’s assume as an 10 mill goalie ig covers that if he’s making 2.5 (I wouldn’t trust any goalie to maintain that high of a value beyond 1 year). But for arguments sake that’s it. If for example like I do you think Hughes will provide 1 mill AAV more value than Pettersson over the next 7 years than that’s another 7 mill AAV you need to make up. Or for example if Pettersson costs 13 mill AAV that’s another 7 mill, or if he costs 12.5 that’s another 3.5 mill

Luke+Palat for Hoglander+Hronek is an easy no
25 févr. à 19 h 13
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It’s close but I’d prefer the Pettersson+Hronek+Demko side, mainly because of the major difference in goaltending + retention on Demko. Also don’t love Palat’s contract


The contract gap on Hughes vs Pettersson is just too much imo as well as just the massive value of Luke, especially in the offseason when losing the cheap years of Hronek, Pettersson, 1/3 of demko's control
25 févr. à 19 h 21
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It’s close but I’d prefer the Pettersson+Hronek+Demko side, mainly because of the major difference in goaltending + retention on Demko. Also don’t love Palat’s contract


My valuations:

Pettersson: 15 mill
J Hughes: 16 mill
Demko: 10 mill
Hronek: 8 mill
Palat: 4 mill
Vitek: 1 mill
Hoglander I don't have a great projection on contract or projected value wise
L Hughes: 10 mill AAV over the life of his RFA control (this is more speculative based on expected improvement)

2 years of Demko at 2.5=15 mll
8 years of Hronek at 7 mill=8 mill
8 years of pettersson at 12.5 mill=20 mill
I'm just gonna say Hoglander at 6 mill surplus value (approximately a 1st)

Overall: 49 mill in surplus value. Massive but let's go to NJDs side

6 years Jack at 8 mill=36 mill
1 year of luke at 900k+8 years at 8 mill=25 mill
Palat: 3 years at 6 mill=-6 mill
Vitek: 1 year at 3.4 mill=-2.4 mill

52.6 mill surplus value

Close but NJD would have to pass
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25 févr. à 19 h 46
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Quoting: Julius_Freezer
Silovs is one of the best G prospects in the league, him plus a 2nd is worth a lot more than a 1st


No he’s not. He’s fine, but PIT has a better one themselves in Blomqvist.
26 févr. à 1 h 28
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This is bad for Vancouver, Petey and J.Hughes are a wash, Hoglander and Hronek for L.Hughes and taking on Palats contract which would cost a 1st to dump elsewhere are even so the fact Van is retaining on Demko and getting a cap dump in Vanacek makes no sense, take the goalies completely out and it makes sense.
 
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