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Rating All Markstrom Offers since Feb 8

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Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2024
Publié: 22 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Looking at the many offers from Calgary ACGMs that include Markstrom since Feb 8th. There have been just over 100 of them.

I put them into a few categories:

1. NJD would likely accept
2. NJD would probably lean towards accepting
3. Close Call
4. NJD would probably lean towards declining
5. NJD would likely decline

I am sure some NJD fans (and maybe some CGY fans) will disagree with my views, and that's cool. Let me know what you think....


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NJD likely says "Yes" if offered

ACGM #4888149: 2024 5th, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4910421: Holtz, Smith, 2025 2nd, 2024 5th (COL)…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4901393: Holtz, Bahl, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4881162: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), Hanifin
ACGM #4878071: Leddy, Málek , Nosek, 2024 3rd, 2024 5th, 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4897925: Clarke, Schmid, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4895262: Smith, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd, 2024 7th…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4903036: Bahl, Smith, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4891523: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.25m)

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NJD maybe leans "Yes" if offered

ACGM #4887909: 2024 1st, 2025 3rd, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4878555: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m), Hanifin
ACGM #4893107: Holtz, Vanecek, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4881580: Casey , 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4906475: Leddy, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4908178: Stillman, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4902119: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4904262: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4907437: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4880087: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2026 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4884382: Clarke, Schmid, Bastian, Hämeenaho, 1st, 3rd…for…Markstrom ($3m), Hanifin ($2.475m), 5th

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Close Call

ACGM #4905911: Holtz…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4900095: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4885073: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 5th (COL), 2025 6th…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4881694: Holtz, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4885054: Holtz, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4894206: Holtz, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Duehr
ACGM #4896919: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4897596: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4900073: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4905349: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4893638: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4906935: Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4907079: Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4883008: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5.1m)
ACGM #4907196: Clarke, Vukojevic, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2025 5th (NJD)
ACGM #4882820: Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4905433: Bahl, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m), Gilbert

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NJD Probably Leans Against (for pieces included)

ACGM #4885744: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $3m), 2024 2nd
ACGM #4891647: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Tanev
ACGM #4898124: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, Bahl, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Hanifin
ACGM #4893002: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), 2024 4th (NJD)
ACGM #4908520: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4890068: Holtz, Vanecek, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4898234: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4900093: Holtz, Hämeenaho, Schmid, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4894940: Holtz, Stillman, Vanecek, 2025 2nd, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4892652: Holtz, Källgren, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4889817: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4905484: Holtz, Barabosha, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4901109: Casey, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Rooney

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NJD Probably Leans Against (for $$)

ACGM #4892536: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4893204: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4905351: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4898219: Holtz, Schmid, Miller, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4882283: Holtz, Schmid, Bastian, Clarke, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom ($6m), Hanifin ($2.475m)
ACGM #4908864: Schmid, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Vladar
ACGM #4889675: Edwards, Källgren, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4899372: Hämeenaho, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 5th (COL), 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)

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NJD likely says No

ACGM #4883256: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4893312: Mercer, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), 2025 2nd, Duehr
ACGM #4894808: Mercer, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $3m), Grzelcyk
ACGM #4875528: Mercer, Nemec, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin (at $2.5m), Tanev, Duehr
ACGM #4898547: Mercer, Misyul, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $3m), Tanev
ACGM #4875867: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 7th (NSH), 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902903: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4885313: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4889122: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4886408: Mercer, Bahl, Nosek, 2024 1st, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin
ACGM #4908956: Mercer, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Rooney, 2024 3rd
ACGM #4862450: Mercer, Casey, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin, Kerins, Rory
ACGM #4886537: Mercer, Clarke, Hämeenaho , Källgren, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4877032: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $6m), MEP, Oesterle, 2024 4th
ACGM #4898851: Nemec, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Andersson
ACGM #4880557: Casey, Meier, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4900782: Casey, Vanecek, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4895948: Casey, Schmid, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4900693: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Squires , Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom ($4.5m), Tanev
ACGM #4893145: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom ($4m), Hanifin
ACGM #4910164: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, Bastian, 1st, 1st…for…Markstrom ($4m), Andersson
ACGM #4893299: Holtz, Bahl, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4879487: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902251: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902365: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4904752: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4908761: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4908599: Holtz, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4909345: Holtz, Kallgren, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4909292: Holtz, Schmid, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2024 2nd
ACGM #4905633: Holtz, Källgren, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4907469: Holtz, Casey, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Hanifin (at $2.95m)
ACGM #4896757: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4891362: Holtz, Casey, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, 2026 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin
ACGM #4890943: Holtz, Casey, Nosek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4897958: Holtz, Casey, Bahl, Lazar, Smith, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4891697: Holtz, Casey, Daws, 2024 1st, 2026 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin (at $2.475m)
ACGM #4891919: Holtz, Vanecek, Vilén, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2024 4th (NJD)
ACGM #4879202: Hämeenaho, Karpovich, Siegs, Squires, Vanecek, 1st, 1st…for…Markstrom ($5m), Hanifin ($2.475m), Duehr
Transactions
NJD
  1. Markström, Jacob (1 800 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $74 073 333 $422 500 $4 632 500 $9 426 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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812 500 $812 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
RFA - 2

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22 févr. à 11 h 30
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I enjoy how the list of absolutely ridiculous proposals is triple the size. But hey you start off with the ridiculous ones and then just the normal fleeces don’t look as bad
22 févr. à 11 h 36
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Man bravo to you! This is some dedication for us to look at. It must of taken a while to get all that information, then post them in those categories.

Some of them are a little light, some are WAY too much, but I believe there are a decent amount of them that are good for both sides, although, I would NOT trade Casey at all for Markstrom if I was New Jersey, so it’s good to see there is only a couple of him in these.
22 févr. à 11 h 46
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Man bravo to you! This is some dedication for us to look at. It must of taken a while to get all that information, then post them in those categories.

Some of them are a little light, some are WAY too much, but I believe there are a decent amount of them that are good for both sides, although, I would NOT trade Casey at all for Markstrom if I was New Jersey, so it’s good to see there is only a couple of him in these.


I'd prefer not to send Holtz, Casey or any premium assets...but it sounds like Conroy may have gotten Holtz onto the table.
Question remains over retention...have seen Devils ask anywhere from "15%" ($900k) to "2-3 million".

If it gets to Holtz+Casey+more, than we are probably talking about Markstrom+dman
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22 févr. à 11 h 47
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If CGY and NJ do make a trade this will make for an excellent audit of the ACGMs. Bookmark it.
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22 févr. à 11 h 51
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Quoting: dgibb10
I enjoy how the list of absolutely ridiculous proposals is triple the size. But hey you start off with the ridiculous ones and then just the normal fleeces don’t look as bad


There are some decent ones in there.
Not sure what the Calgary Puck Insiders are saying lately...lol
Last I saw was its a done deal, Mercer+Casey+1st+cost of retention, will announced after outdoor game.
22 févr. à 11 h 54
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If CGY and NJ do make a trade this will make for an excellent audit of the ACGMs. Bookmark it.


Thanks...Imagine ACGMs in general are much wider range than what GMs are actually discussing.

(also, note this is just the ACGMs coming from Calgary....didn't include NJD ACGMs).
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22 févr. à 11 h 56
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I'd prefer not to send Holtz, Casey or any premium assets...but it sounds like Conroy may have gotten Holtz onto the table.
Question remains over retention...have seen Devils ask anywhere from "15%" ($900k) to "2-3 million".

If it gets to Holtz+Casey+more, than we are probably talking about Markstrom+dman


Yes, then you gotta think if it is truly worth it to ship out that much for Markstrom, and one of Hanifin, or Tanev. Hard to say really. If it is Holtz, Casey+, I would want a decent amount of retention, for them to take Vanecek, and one of those good defenders. In theory, Holtz should work one for one if he is on the table with possibly some retention, but who knows.
22 févr. à 12 h 14
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Yes, then you gotta think if it is truly worth it to ship out that much for Markstrom, and one of Hanifin, or Tanev. Hard to say really. If it is Holtz, Casey+, I would want a decent amount of retention, for them to take Vanecek, and one of those good defenders. In theory, Holtz should work one for one if he is on the table with possibly some retention, but who knows.


I think Fitzy has played his cards right here on Markstrom.

Once news came out that Holtz was made available....look at the events that followed....Carolina exited the goalie market, Colorado and Toronto have taken a step back (maybe backups)...Nashville GM does radio show and names Fitzy directly when saying he is open to selling Saros (Preds coach was a fan of Holtz's in NJ)...Marc-Andre Fleury gets linked to NJD....Montreal GM does interview saying its tough market to sell a goalie since no one is buying....Columbus GM fired days after Devils were linked to Merzlikins (no idea if events are related). The whole market has seemed to sway to more favorable conditions for NJ.

More supply, less demand

But if there is a dman attached....I think Fitzy loses his leverage since Dmen seemed to be short in supply, high in demand.
And other teams may want first-mover advantage.

So I think its in NJ's interest to keep the two separate.
22 févr. à 12 h 17
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There are some decent ones in there.
Not sure what the Calgary Puck Insiders are saying lately...lol
Last I saw was its a done deal, Mercer+Casey+1st+cost of retention, will announced after outdoor game.


More ridiculousness. Seems like they really want to get rid of Markstrom much more than we want him. But they posture as if they aren’t desperate to move him while his value is highest.

“We can wait till the offseason”
But in the next line
“Conroy cannot wait until the offseason”
22 févr. à 13 h 28
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Thanks...Imagine ACGMs in general are much wider range than what GMs are actually discussing.

(also, note this is just the ACGMs coming from Calgary....didn't include NJD ACGMs).


That's a ton of work.
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That's a ton of work.


I was trying to think of way to put a number on each one…+/- toward NJD to toward CGY. That would have been a lot of work.
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