No.

Pit fans started the trend of Saad for Smith swap. Just keeping up with the times lmao

STL fans have been trying to shovel off slow Saad to us for years now. Not remotely interested.

Once again, Pit fans keep sending this swap offer. Don't like it? Fine. Don't really care. More added it since it's funny it shows up often enough

Easy pass for rangers. They don’t need a top line RW at the expense of Kakko and KAM

How about a 2nd and Blais for Kakko? (satire for the Buch trade)

Funny

Pens need PP help. Saad doesn't give them that.

Yeah that's not enough for K'Andre alone....

Maybe a mid round pick for retained Hayes though.

Set the ACGM feed filter to STL, scroll through, and you’ll see who has overwhelmingly been pushing this garbage trade. There were at least three STL fan’s ACGMs that included this trade on first page alone. You’re stuck with slow Saad.

Also, you made a mistake in not calling this ACGM "Blues Travelers"

Lmao whatever you say pal



Hayes unretained, sure. But retention for 3 years is not going to be happening for a mid round pick. Everyone says that cause the return Philly got. Philly was desperate to get rid of him since he didn't fit their culture/system. Past returns don't mean a thing

Rangers have no reason to offload top roster players and gut their depth. A lot of Rangers fans would love a Buch return but there is no reason to send Kakko/Key.

What if it were Schneider instead of KAM? Feels like the East is pretty open this year (and maybe next) so Rangers could just go all in which would lose them some younger pieces in the system but a cup could make it worth it. Could be the best shot they have with the core starting to creep up to their early 30s.

So Schneider, Kakko, Goodrow and a 1st (maybe conditional pick as well) for Buch and Hayes? Just those two fix their two biggest needs at the expense of what is currently a bottom pair d-man and a few bottom 6 pieces

I think Vancouver prefers Buchnevich more than Kapanen.

Past returns are quite literally the best predictor of future returns.

But even before we consider that, it's already plenty of value.

I'm not sure which you want to use.
Petry getting about 5 mil retained returned a 4th and a waivers guy.
Hayes getting about 11 mil retained returned a 6th
Johansen getting 8 mil retained returned another waivers player
Burns getting about 8 mil retained returned a 3rd and a 4th liner.

So Hayes getting about 3.5 mil retained (2mil and change of actual $) getting a 3rd or 4th is actually pretty good value. And pretty far above any remotely comparable trade in recent memory.

Rangers say not even close.

The only piece Vancouver has that can be used in a trade for Buch is Willander.

I guess its a matter of whether you view the value as being compensation for the amount the dealing team is retaining vs the quality of the contract the player holds at their new aav.

Obviously Philly is retaining much more than St. Louis, but they also have the unfortunate position of reducing Hayes from a disasterous 7 million contract to a 3.5 million contract. They had no choice but to get rid of him and 3.5 mill his contract is about on par with his play. If the Rangers were only paying around 1.7 million for 3 years on Hayes they would be getting a great deal. I'm not going to push it as a 1st round, but in my mind it would have to be one of either a 2nd, Kakko, or Robertson.

The value might be about right, but there is just no reason for the Rangers to make a trade addressing RW depth and trade away a top 6 RW. I also think Schneider will not be shipped off as he is likely the eventual Trouba replacement. I also don't think they need Hayes as Brodzinski has really played well. If they really want Buch Drury would likely need to part with the 1st, a high-end prospect like Berard/Sykora/BMB, and maybe a Zac Jones if the Blues want an NHL-ready dman

Right.
You got a good point.

Which is why I would assume the Lindholm trade was the last of Vancouver's big grabs. But if vancouver were willing to make a Buch trade happen for Willander and their 2025 1st, I would take it.

Pass on trading any of them and wanting any of them

Dude. What are you on about? There has literally been 75-100 Smith for Saad trades from Pens fans in the last month. And Saad only arrived in 2021, with his first season in STL a banger, so nobody did it then.




Uhhhhhhhh no. And in what world is Saad slow? You have no idea what you;re on about.

If you’re so high on him then why do STL fans keep attempting to shovel him off to us? Follow the directions in my previous comment and you will see how many STL fans have done so in their ACGM’s. Redundancy. Last year was the same story, but trying to fetch picks from us for him. Nope. If you’re so high on him, then keep him. Simple.