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Créé par: WranglerWranglin
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2024
Publié: 21 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Lundell, Anton
  2. Mahura, Josh
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Reaves, Ryan
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
3.
CGY
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
Détails additionnels:
Conditions:
Kaliyev scores 30+ points in 2024-25 the 3rd round pick becomes a 2nd
If the Flames 2nd round pick is later than the 46th overall pick LAK will receive the 2nd instead of the 3rd
LAK
  1. Greer, AJ
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $76 483 333 $0 $1 275 000 $7 016 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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21 févr. à 12 h 59
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Tanev return is pretty bad
21 févr. à 13 h 5
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Quoting: DontTradeDougie
Tanev return is pretty bad


No retention, a prospect that's pushing NHL ready with significant upside and taking on money for a pick. Seems in the ballpark for a 4.5M rental
21 févr. à 13 h 6
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whats the point of LA making this trade, how does this make them better at the deadline. Greer has less points than Kaliyev.
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21 févr. à 13 h 8
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Cats are paying that price
21 févr. à 13 h 15
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Greer is a UFA, so that deal is a No.
21 févr. à 13 h 21
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whats the point of LA making this trade, how does this make them better at the deadline. Greer has less points than Kaliyev.


Fits the bottom 6 role better, get a pick for a guy struggling that's potentially in the top 60 of the draft, Greer's been more defensively responsible, while leading Kaliyev in hits, blocks, takeaways dzone starts. Kaliyev feels like a square peg in a round hole, Greer slots really nicely in this bottom half of the forwards group
21 févr. à 13 h 35
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
Fits the bottom 6 role better, get a pick for a guy struggling that's potentially in the top 60 of the draft, Greer's been more defensively responsible, while leading Kaliyev in hits, blocks, takeaways dzone starts. Kaliyev feels like a square peg in a round hole, Greer slots really nicely in this bottom half of the forwards group


The Kings already have: Byfield-PLD-Lafreniere as the 3rd line, which means you think Greer would be an improvement over Grundstrom-Turcotte/Lizotte-Lewis/JAD. Greer has the 4th lowest plus minus and that is with averaging less than 9 minutes ATOI. I'd rather keep a scoring forward with Arvidsson getting injured in the previous game.
21 févr. à 14 h 6
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Quoting: DontTradeDougie
Tanev return is pretty bad


Not really.
Niemela is a really good D prospect.
Leafs wouldn't even do this.
21 févr. à 14 h 8
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Not really.
Niemela is a really good D prospect.
Leafs wouldn't even do this.


He's a really good prospect in the Leafs system which isn't saying a whole bunch. Don't get yourself carried away with that.
21 févr. à 14 h 14
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
He's a really good prospect in the Leafs system which isn't saying a whole bunch. Don't get yourself carried away with that.


Sure, but teams don't usually give up their top D prospect for a middle of the pack rental D.
Tanev's value is like a 2nd round pick and a sweetener
21 févr. à 14 h 20
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Sure, but teams don't usually give up their top D prospect for a middle of the pack rental D.
Tanev's value is like a 2nd round pick and a sweetener


You could argue really really easily that Neimela's value isn't far off from a 2nd. Hence the Flames taking money back. I don't know anyone out there moving more than that for Neimela. Tough to say middle of the pack rental when he's on the top 3 - 5 of most analysts trade boards.
21 févr. à 17 h 41
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
You could argue really really easily that Neimela's value isn't far off from a 2nd. Hence the Flames taking money back. I don't know anyone out there moving more than that for Neimela. Tough to say middle of the pack rental when he's on the top 3 - 5 of most analysts trade boards.


Fair. But essentially if Niemela = 2nd rounder then the trade here is a 2nd and a 3rd for Tanev. I didn't even notice Reaves was in the deal tbh. Makes more sense for CGY to just retain.

You're right though that I'm sure the Leafs and Leafs fans value their own prospects more than others. I think thats pretty normal for any fanbase.

Ultimately I don't think Leafs would do Niemela and a 3rd. I also think that would be a pretty good return for Tanev personally.
Thats why I intially replied as you said it was a bad return
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21 févr. à 19 h 34
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
No retention, a prospect that's pushing NHL ready with significant upside and taking on money for a pick. Seems in the ballpark for a 4.5M rental


They're literally taking back Reaves in the deal. Leafs need to add a pick just for that lol
21 févr. à 19 h 39
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Quoting: MadLin27
Not really.
Niemela is a really good D prospect.
Leafs wouldn't even do this.


Well the Leafs are morons then because no on wants that Reaves contract
23 févr. à 12 h 16
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Well the Leafs are morons then because no on wants that Reaves contract


I was ignoring the Reaves part tbh
 
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