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WPG-LAK-PHI Lots of moving pieces

Créé par: CH70
Publié: 19 févr. à 22 h 47
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/192 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Kings de Los AngelesKings de Los Angeles

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Arvidsson, ViktorKings de Los AngelesLNH-929 688 $011---3022--
Turcotte, AlexExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-195 599 $011---7112--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Laczynski, TannerFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-166 797 $011---0000--
Marody, CooperFlyers de PhiladelphieMineures-0 $011---0000--
Iafallo, AlexFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH50%437 500 $011---5271118--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 941 $2243603411
Variation520 990 $011-100
Final522 931 $ (↑)2244 (↑)61 (↑)2 (↓)4116814

Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphieFlyers de Philadelphie

Transaction simultanéeStatut initialNouveau statutImpact sur la masse salarialeFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Laczynski, TannerMineuresLNH166 797 $1-----------
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Laczynski, TannerFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-166 797 $011---0000--
Marody, CooperFlyers de PhiladelphieMineures-0 $011---0000--
Iafallo, AlexFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH50%437 500 $011---5271118--
Walker, SeanFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-579 688 $011---5651520--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Arvidsson, ViktorKings de Los AngelesLNH-929 688 $011---3022--
Iafallo, AlexJets de WinnipegLNH-875 000 $011---5271118--
Turcotte, AlexExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-195 599 $011---7112--
Lambert, BradExempté du ballottageJets de WinnipegMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 732 617 $2348684814
Variation-983 099 $100110
Final749 518 $ (↓)24 (↑)48685 (↑)9 (↑)14-4-12-16

Logo de Jets de WinnipegJets de Winnipeg

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Iafallo, AlexJets de WinnipegLNH-875 000 $011---5271118--
Lambert, BradExempté du ballottageJets de WinnipegMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Walker, SeanFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH-579 688 $011---5651520--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 278 330 $2345602611
Variation295 312 $0-1-10-10
Final1 573 642 $ (↑)2344 (↓)59 (↓)25 (↓)11-242
19 févr. à 23 h 22
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.


There is a Bill Nye meme out there with an incredulous face, and the caption "That makes no *bleeping* sense". Bill Nye the Deadline Guy.
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20 févr. à 6 h 21
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.


I don’t know that I would say the Flyers give up the least. The original thought was Walker to the Jets for Lambert and Montreal’s 2nd this year, which I thought was reasonable. Winnipeg has 23/23 roster slots taken up and would need to move someone off the roster to make any deal work.

The Kings are looking for depth upgrades and Arvidsson is a UFA at the season’s and coming off of back surgery that he only just had 3-4 months ago. Yes, definitely is a productive player, but, IMO, is a HUGE question mark the rest of the way.

The Jets, in theory, could move Iafallo and not be losing much in terms of offense, as he is mainly relegated to 3rd/4th line usage. The Kings don’t exactly have much in terms of cap space either.

The Flyers then facilitate moving Iafallo back to the Kings by retaining 50% of his contract, and giving up a VERY valuable retention slot (2nd of 3) and taking back the the Arvidsson contract, that expires at the end of the year. The Flyers weaponizing their cap space (they could still put Ryan Ellis on LTIR to clear more if needed) and the use of a retention slot, would be ultimately be receiving Turcotte, a player that needs a change of scenery to have a better chance, and a 1st round pick.

Is the 1st being a smidge too greedy? That’s debatable. It is justifiable. Would I be willing to take a 2nd back instead? Sure, but the Kings don’t have a 2nd until next year. I would then want the 2nd to have a condition of moving to a lottery protected 1st in 2025 based on Kings success (making it to WCF or SCF).
20 févr. à 13 h 6
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I don’t know that I would say the Flyers give up the least. The original thought was Walker to the Jets for Lambert and Montreal’s 2nd this year, which I thought was reasonable. Winnipeg has 23/23 roster slots taken up and would need to move someone off the roster to make any deal work.

The Kings are looking for depth upgrades and Arvidsson is a UFA at the season’s and coming off of back surgery that he only just had 3-4 months ago. Yes, definitely is a productive player, but, IMO, is a HUGE question mark the rest of the way.

The Jets, in theory, could move Iafallo and not be losing much in terms of offense, as he is mainly relegated to 3rd/4th line usage. The Kings don’t exactly have much in terms of cap space either.

The Flyers then facilitate moving Iafallo back to the Kings by retaining 50% of his contract, and giving up a VERY valuable retention slot (2nd of 3) and taking back the the Arvidsson contract, that expires at the end of the year. The Flyers weaponizing their cap space (they could still put Ryan Ellis on LTIR to clear more if needed) and the use of a retention slot, would be ultimately be receiving Turcotte, a player that needs a change of scenery to have a better chance, and a 1st round pick.

Is the 1st being a smidge too greedy? That’s debatable. It is justifiable. Would I be willing to take a 2nd back instead? Sure, but the Kings don’t have a 2nd until next year. I would then want the 2nd to have a condition of moving to a lottery protected 1st in 2025 based on Kings success (making it to WCF or SCF).


This trade only makes sense for the Flyers. It's an easy no from the Jets and Kings. Jets wouldn't even give up this much for Chris Tanev out of Calgary.
20 févr. à 13 h 45
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This trade only makes sense for the Flyers. It's an easy no from the Jets and Kings. Jets wouldn't even give up this much for Chris Tanev out of Calgary.


Honestly, I think Tanev gets a better return. We’ll see. Maybe nothing happens. Just spitballing.
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Honestly, I think Tanev gets a better return. We’ll see. Maybe nothing happens. Just spitballing.


The issue is that Iafallo is a perfectly good player for the Jets, who can either play on the fourth line if needed, or on the first line if needed. Very versatile, and can put up some points when asked to (i.e. stints on the first line). They also value Lambert very highly. Tanev COULD draw a very, very solid return if there are a lot of different interested buyers, but cap space still dominates. Teams can only offer what they can offer with their cap space, and that's always a problem for contending teams. The young players the seller of the veteran want don't equal out the cap space a lot of the time.

A 2nd round pick and a prospect for Tanev could be expected, but the quality of the prospect is open to debate. It won't be anything like Logan Stankoven or Calum Ritchie or Brad Lambert. Retaining even 50% won't cost a fortune as it is only for the rest of this season, and pro-rated, won't be much.
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The issue is that Iafallo is a perfectly good player for the Jets, who can either play on the fourth line if needed, or on the first line if needed. Very versatile, and can put up some points when asked to (i.e. stints on the first line). They also value Lambert very highly. Tanev COULD draw a very, very solid return if there are a lot of different interested buyers, but cap space still dominates. Teams can only offer what they can offer with their cap space, and that's always a problem for contending teams. The young players the seller of the veteran want don't equal out the cap space a lot of the time.

A 2nd round pick and a prospect for Tanev could be expected, but the quality of the prospect is open to debate. It won't be anything like Logan Stankoven or Calum Ritchie or Brad Lambert. Retaining even 50% won't cost a fortune as it is only for the rest of this season, and pro-rated, won't be much.


Very reasonable argument. One of the hurdles with the original proposal (without the Kings) was that the Jets would have to make room on the roster in order to bring Walker on. Would you think the second and a guy like Rashevsky makes better sense? Is sending loaning Stanley to your AHL affiliate an option?

WPG: Walker
Coincident Transaction: Stanley to Minors
PHI: Rashevsky and ‘24 2nd (MTL)
23 févr. à 18 h 44
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Very reasonable argument. One of the hurdles with the original proposal (without the Kings) was that the Jets would have to make room on the roster in order to bring Walker on. Would you think the second and a guy like Rashevsky makes better sense? Is sending loaning Stanley to your AHL affiliate an option?

WPG: Walker
Coincident Transaction: Stanley to Minors
PHI: Rashevsky and ‘24 2nd (MTL)


Possibly? I don't know a thing about that prospect to be honest!
 
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