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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals21 févr. à 7 h 18
Sujet: WPG-LAK-PHI Lots of moving pieces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Augustus</b></div><div>The issue is that Iafallo is a perfectly good player for the Jets, who can either play on the fourth line if needed, or on the first line if needed. Very versatile, and can put up some points when asked to (i.e. stints on the first line). They also value Lambert very highly. Tanev COULD draw a very, very solid return if there are a lot of different interested buyers, but cap space still dominates. Teams can only offer what they can offer with their cap space, and that's always a problem for contending teams. The young players the seller of the veteran want don't equal out the cap space a lot of the time.

A 2nd round pick and a prospect for Tanev could be expected, but the quality of the prospect is open to debate. It won't be anything like Logan Stankoven or Calum Ritchie or Brad Lambert. Retaining even 50% won't cost a fortune as it is only for the rest of this season, and pro-rated, won't be much.</div></div>

Very reasonable argument. One of the hurdles with the original proposal (without the Kings) was that the Jets would have to make room on the roster in order to bring Walker on. Would you think the second and a guy like Rashevsky makes better sense? Is sending loaning Stanley to your AHL affiliate an option?

WPG: Walker
Coincident Transaction: Stanley to Minors
PHI: Rashevsky and ‘24 2nd (MTL)
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals20 févr. à 6 h 21
Sujet: WPG-LAK-PHI Lots of moving pieces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.</div></div>

I don’t know that I would say the Flyers give up the least. The original thought was Walker to the Jets for Lambert and Montreal’s 2nd this year, which I thought was reasonable. Winnipeg has 23/23 roster slots taken up and would need to move someone off the roster to make any deal work.

The Kings are looking for depth upgrades and Arvidsson is a UFA at the season’s and coming off of back surgery that he only just had 3-4 months ago. Yes, definitely is a productive player, but, IMO, is a HUGE question mark the rest of the way.

The Jets, in theory, could move Iafallo and not be losing much in terms of offense, as he is mainly relegated to 3rd/4th line usage. The Kings don’t exactly have much in terms of cap space either.

The Flyers then facilitate moving Iafallo back to the Kings by retaining 50% of his contract, and giving up a VERY valuable retention slot (2nd of 3) and taking back the the Arvidsson contract, that expires at the end of the year. The Flyers weaponizing their cap space (they could still put Ryan Ellis on LTIR to clear more if needed) and the use of a retention slot, would be ultimately be receiving Turcotte, a player that needs a change of scenery to have a better chance, and a 1st round pick.

Is the 1st being a smidge too greedy? That’s debatable. It is justifiable. Would I be willing to take a 2nd back instead? Sure, but the Kings don’t have a 2nd until next year. I would then want the 2nd to have a condition of moving to a lottery protected 1st in 2025 based on Kings success (making it to WCF or SCF).