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Does this trade work in concept

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Équipe: 2024-25 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2024
Publié: 15 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Skinner, Jeff (1 000 000 $ retained)
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Picks may have to go either way as well, but this is the general idea. Rangers get a goal scorer, Sabres get a veteran RHD, with the retention it's the same cap hits.
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15 févr. à 21 h 20
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Why would you willingly take on a contract like Trouba's?
15 févr. à 21 h 23
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Quoting: seanrushton
Why would you willingly take on a contract like Trouba's?


Because they are getting rid of a contract like Skinners. They have plenty of internal replacements for Skinner, they really lack D of any kind.
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15 févr. à 21 h 26
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Because they are getting rid of a contract like Skinners. They have plenty of internal replacements for Skinner, they really lack D of any kind.


I get that you guys need an RHD and the Skinner contract isn't great but I don't think you want to take a guy who's going to need sheltered minutes and is making $8m... Trouba is a vicious thug that's able to provide good offense but that's about all he is... he has very bad defensive metrics
15 févr. à 21 h 32
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Trouba is their Captain, He's not leaving a much better Rangers team for Buffalo.
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15 févr. à 21 h 35
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Rangers organization thinks highly of Trouba, Skinner has negative value.
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15 févr. à 21 h 36
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Schneider is the guy I'd rather go after
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15 févr. à 21 h 37
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Quoting: BUF10
Rangers organization thinks highly of Trouba, Skinner has negative value.


But, but, between two stalls!
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15 févr. à 21 h 38
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But, but, between two stalls!


He was elite last year. So it was funny and cool, This year he’s been awful like most of the team.
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15 févr. à 21 h 40
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Trouba has more value than Skinner. Besides Skinner's iffy contract is three full seasons, Trouba's only two.
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15 févr. à 21 h 45
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Quoting: sabres89
Schneider is the guy I'd rather go after


Lol good luck
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15 févr. à 21 h 45
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You can have Trouba for picks. Dump Skinner else where
15 févr. à 21 h 51
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Quoting: Rags21
You can have Trouba for picks. Dump Skinner else where


Trouba is never getting moved
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15 févr. à 21 h 54
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Quoting: BUF10
Trouba is never getting moved


Lol that’s fine. There’s 2 years left
15 févr. à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Rags21
You can have Trouba for picks. Dump Skinner else where


Trouba also has negative value, so it's really a dump for a dump.
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15 févr. à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Greysuits
Because they are getting rid of a contract like Skinners. They have plenty of internal replacements for Skinner, they really lack D of any kind.


Quoting: sabres89
Schneider is the guy I'd rather go after


Trouba doesn’t play good defense anyways
He’s been overrated for years
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15 févr. à 22 h 3
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Quoting: Greysuits
Trouba also has negative value, so it's really a dump for a dump.


And yet, u seemingly want him for some reason???
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15 févr. à 22 h 5
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Quoting: Greysuits
Trouba also has negative value, so it's really a dump for a dump.


Rangers have a need at RD more than winger. I’ll take Trouba’s physicality and intimidation over Skinner
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15 févr. à 22 h 24
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Rangers have a need at RD more than winger. I’ll take Trouba’s physicality and intimidation over Skinner


That's fair.
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15 févr. à 22 h 56
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If I had to overpay for a guy I'd rather overpay my captain who's a top 4 dman than a winger. I like skinner I just think trouba has more value and fits a role that's much harder to fill.
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Quoting: seanrushton
I get that you guys need an RHD and the Skinner contract isn't great but I don't think you want to take a guy who's going to need sheltered minutes and is making $8m... Trouba is a vicious thug that's able to provide good offense but that's about all he is... he has very bad defensive metrics


Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Trouba doesn’t play good defense anyways
He’s been overrated for years


Stat watchers lol. He's a beast and we would be lost without him lol. Infact, same with Goody, Lindgren and Kakko lol.
We obviously pass on this, ditto Trouba
15 févr. à 23 h 48
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
Stat watchers lol. He's a beast and we would be lost without him lol. Infact, same with Goody, Lindgren and Kakko lol.
We obviously pass on this, ditto Trouba


Stats directly let u know how someone is playing dude
But even by the eye test, Trouba is not great at DEFENSE
Just bc you’re big & physical, doesn’t mean u prevent goals

But you don’t have to worry,
bc there’s no way that anyone would take that Trouba contract off your hands anyways
He’s all yours, Lol
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Stats directly let u know how someone is playing dude
But even by the eye test, Trouba is not great at DEFENSE
Just bc you’re big & physical, doesn’t mean u prevent goals


Eye test says he's glue, just you don't see it...
15 févr. à 23 h 56
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
Eye test says he's glue, just you don't see it...


I have MSG & watch plenty of NyR games when the Sabres aren’t on dude
I think it’s more likely that you’re a bit caught up in your fandom here
Trouba has never been great defensively
Not that he’s terrible, he just isn’t very good
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I have MSG & watch plenty of NyR games when the Sabres aren’t on dude
I think it’s more likely that you’re a bit caught up in your fandom here
Trouba has never been great defensively
Not that he’s terrible, he just isn’t very good


Thanks for the underlying stats. Without him, we crumble. Try again
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
Thanks for the underlying stats. Without him, we crumble. Try again


I’m not questioning his leadership or his toughness,
of course that has value to u guys

But that doesn’t mean he’s good defensively either

Only your fandom is keeping u from being able to separate how valuable his “glue” is from whether or not he plays good defense
 
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