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Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2024
Publié: 15 févr. 2024
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Devils may be looking for a goalie option. According to some reports they had even offered Alex Holtz for a goalie (goalie trades don’t return as much as people think…Holtz would have been an outlier, especially for mid-season deal).

Ultimately, the Devils big move in net could likely come in off-season, where we have seen several Ullmark-to-NJD scenarios. But Swayman might be the guy to ask for.

Many had predicted Bruins were going to sign Swayman long-term just after the window opens, but a month a half later and no extension. And the only new thing we have learned is how deep the scars from arbitration still are. As many know, the league history on players who go through an arbitration hearing process suggests an eventual split in most cases (50% are gone in a year, 80% gone within two years). And every year, fans of those players will always say, ‘our guy is different’. Well, only about 1-in-5 are, indeed, different. In recent years the list of guys include Bertuzzi, Copp, Rodrigues, Edmundson, Forsberg, Ceci, Kulak, Trouba, Schmidt, Hoffman, Johansson, Sobotka, Niemi, Weber, Zherdev, Wheeler.

Also, recently, Swayman was spotted hugging other goalies. (Trouble in paradise, Linus?)

While earlier in the season, extend Swayman and trade Ullmark seemed more likely. But now have seen even some Bruins writers questioning whether that is best plan.

So maybe there is a path here. I think would be preferred over some of the other names floating around goalie market. Just using two guys as placeholders in the trade for now.
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15 févr. à 9 h 47
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Bro thinks turcotte is worth only a 2nd💀💀
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Bro thinks turcotte is worth only a 2nd💀💀


D+5, still in AHL, losing waiver exemption, same price Kings paid for Lias Andersson. I’m okay with that price.
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If Bruins trade Swayman, Mercer is at least coming back the other way.... but I don't think he is available and believe Boston locks him up long-term.
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As stated above, have to be Mercer for B’s to even consider it.
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If Bruins trade Swayman, Mercer is at least coming back the other way.... but I don't think he is available and believe Boston locks him up long-term.


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As stated above, have to be Mercer for B’s to even consider it.


I wouldn’t rule him out completely, but I think it would be hard. Mercer is a core guy here, loved by coaches and teammates, can play any position, any situation, plays in hard areas, and has never missed a shift since arrived in league.

But I suppose if we came across another winger (or extend Toffoli, or bring over Gritsyuk) maybe there is case to be made to swap him for goalie.

Anything new on Swayman extension front?
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I wouldn’t rule him out completely, but I think it would be hard. Mercer is a core guy here, loved by coaches and teammates, can play any position, any situation, plays in hard areas, and has never missed a shift since arrived in league.

But I suppose if we came across another winger (or extend Toffoli, or bring over Gritsyuk) maybe there is case to be made to swap him for goalie.

Anything new on Swayman extension front?


I agree. I think it’s the same for both teams. It’s fair and good hockey trade that both teams would have a very difficult time pulling the trigger on despite it helping both teams.

Extension news has been pretty quiet to this point for everyone, not just Swayman.

I would not expect him to sign an extension prior to the deadline.
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Bro thinks turcotte is worth only a 2nd💀💀


Bro thinks Turcotte is worth more than a 2nd laugh laugh
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I agree. I think it’s the same for both teams. It’s fair and good hockey trade that both teams would have a very difficult time pulling the trigger on despite it helping both teams.

Extension news has been pretty quiet to this point for everyone, not just Swayman.

I would not expect him to sign an extension prior to the deadline.


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As stated above, have to be Mercer for B’s to even consider it.


Quoting: BruinsWoahWoah
If Bruins trade Swayman, Mercer is at least coming back the other way.... but I don't think he is available and believe Boston locks him up long-term.


My counter proposals not including Mercer would be

Holtz +1st
2 1sts+Lenni (or whatever non Seamus Casey/Holtz prospect)

But if it came down to it I personally would put Mercer on the table for swayman
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Yea Holtz just doesn’t do it, swayman has good stats to back him up. Not to say Holtz is bad by any mean, just not as proven as swayman and that’s a risk we can’t take.
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Yea Holtz just doesn’t do it, swayman has good stats to back him up. Not to say Holtz is bad by any mean, just not as proven as swayman and that’s a risk we can’t take.


My standing offer for Swayman is 3 1sts of value, whatever that looks like.

Whether it’s 3 actual 1sts, or Mercer, or Holtz+1st or Seamus+1st+2nd or whatever else
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My counter proposals not including Mercer would be

Holtz +1st
2 1sts+Lenni (or whatever non Seamus Casey/Holtz prospect)

But if it came down to it I personally would put Mercer on the table for swayman


My counter would be Ullmark/Boqvist/Steen for Holtz/Lazar. Between now and deadline.
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My counter would be Ullmark/Boqvist/Steen for Holtz/Lazar. Between now and deadline.


How about without Lazar and Boqvist
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How about without Lazar and Boqvist


Add Schmid or Daws. Deal.
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Add Schmid or Daws. Deal.


How about Vitek at 50%
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How about Vitek at 50%



No.

I don’t even really want the other 2 but whichever one it is would replace Bussi at Prov when he was called up to be the backup. Even that is not really necessary as they have Keyser there as well.

Take out Steen too and make it a hockey trade then.
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My counter would be Ullmark/Boqvist/Steen for Holtz/Lazar. Between now and deadline.


1st+3rd for Ullmark+Boqvist and you can go get whoever you like with those picks (or it could be a 3 team deal). Ullmark imo doesn't seem like the kind of guy who we'd need to but Holtz up for in order to go get
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1st+3rd for Ullmark+Boqvist and you can go get whoever you like with those picks (or it could be a 3 team deal). Ullmark imo doesn't seem like the kind of guy who we'd need to but Holtz up for in order to go get


Pass then. We’ll wait til the offseason,
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Pass then. We’ll wait til the offseason,


The offer goes down in the offseason unfortunately when you will be trying to clear cap space and it's only for 1 year
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The offer goes down in the offseason unfortunately when you will be trying to clear cap space and it's only for 1 year


No it doesn’t. And they don’t need cap space next year. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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No it doesn’t. And they don’t need cap space next year. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Go see what you can get but from my perspective you call jersey in the offseason and theres no 1st on the table anymore
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Go see what you can get but from my perspective you call jersey in the offseason and theres no 1st on the table anymore


No worries. Kuemper got a 1st + in the offseason with 1 year remaining.

And Boston does not have to trade him.
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D+5, still in AHL, losing waiver exemption, same price Kings paid for Lias Andersson. I’m okay with that price.


Injuries have hurt Turcotte's development for sure. But Turcotte is playing really well right now as LA's 4C in the NHL. He looks like the player the Kings thought they were drafting at 5OA. No way LA moves Turcotte at all.
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No worries. Kuemper got a 1st + in the offseason with 1 year remaining.

And Boston does not have to trade him.


Arizona had no other needs they were trying to fill. They also retained.

From what I’ve seen Boston appears to want to be heavy players in UFA. better hope you don’t get caught in the Calgary situation where they got fleeced in the Monahan trade to bring in kadri
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Injuries have hurt Turcotte's development for sure. But Turcotte is playing really well right now as LA's 4C in the NHL. He looks like the player the Kings thought they were drafting at 5OA. No way LA moves Turcotte at all.


We don’t have a 2nd this year…and unfortunately our 1st is too high to trade now. I am big believer in Turcotte and think he would fit Devils with his skating, speed, smarts (and being former roommates with our top star). I doubt we would be selling anything that Kings need right now, but if Turcotte is out out there I’d hope our GM would make an attempt for him.
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No worries. Kuemper got a 1st + in the offseason with 1 year remaining.

And Boston does not have to trade him.


A 1st only happens if we start winning a few games here…it’s been dangerously close to potential lottery pick for a lot of this season. Good thing about Ullmark is that he is young enough where an extension may be doable. What would you think he gets? Mid 6s?
 
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