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Créé par: fangm

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2024

Publié: 13 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Transactions

TOR

Kakko, Kaapo
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)

NYR

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

With rumours that:
1. NYR have been listening on Kakko
2. NYR owner won't let them trade their 1st

This deal makes loads of sense. The 1st from Toronto allows them to pickup a 1RW like Tarasenko or to go after Guentzel if Pit trades him. Then Wheeler can drop down to the 3rd line in Kakko's spot.

TOR

Hakanpää, Jani
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)

DAL

Liljegren, Timothy

Détails additionnels:

Similar to the Sandin trade last year.

TOR

Andersson, Rasmus (2 250 000 $ retained)

CGY

Abruzzese, Nick
Niemelä, Topi
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

This is the most I can find in a trade for a D. Yes there is retention and other factors but its more than Lindholm, Jones or anyone else has been traded for. Hard to see Calgary turning this down.

They get two 1sts, 2nd, a RHD who likely steps into their lineup next year and a forward prospect who light up the NCAA playing with Coronato so they have a chance to play together again.

All for a player who could walk before they are even competitive. I feel like Flames fans don't consider enough the possibility that this team doesn't compete for the next 1/2 years and suddenly Andersson is a pending UFA who might want to go to a playoff team and you got two years of worse picks then half this package for him in future.

Enfoui

Ryan Reaves: 200 000 $ (1 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	83 256 450 $	0 $	0 $	243 550 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2
Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Bertuzzi, Tyler 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Gregor, Noah 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Kämpf, David 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
		McMann, Bobby 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Andersson, Rasmus 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Woll, Joseph 766 667 $766 667 $ G RFA - 2
Benoit, Simon 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya 3 550 000 $3 550 000 $ G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hakanpää, Jani 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2

13 févr. à 23 h 9

boltsfan71

Rejoint: juill. 2023

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dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

13 févr. à 23 h 20

KingofRnR

TrevorA

Rejoint: janv. 2021

Messages: 6,871

Mentions "j'aime": 1,868

Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

Redmile04, Vancity2196 et MoxNix a aimé ceci.

13 févr. à 23 h 29

GM_SZK

Puckhead

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 1,319

Mentions "j'aime": 365

Why would Dallas do that? You ref Washington but how is that a comp? Take the 1st out and I guess you could make a case, maybe…hmm…not even imo.

13 févr. à 23 h 36

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: GM_SZK

Why would Dallas do that? You ref Washington but how is that a comp? Take the 1st out and I guess you could make a case, maybe…hmm…not even imo.

How is it not a comp? Sandin went for a 1st and Gustafson. Liligren who is likely worth a little more is being traded for essentially the same package.

13 févr. à 23 h 36

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: KingofRnR

Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

For that package you get fired for turning it down.

13 févr. à 23 h 36

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: boltsfan71

dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

Not unprecedented. Chicago did it on McCabe last year. Similar amount for 3 years.

13 févr. à 23 h 37

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: boltsfan71

dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

In terms of real money it's actually almost identical to McCabe since his contract is back loaded.

13 févr. à 23 h 43

GM_SZK

Puckhead

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 1,319

Mentions "j'aime": 365

Quoting: Rajvinder

How is it not a comp? Sandin went for a 1st and Gustafson. Liligren who is likely worth a little more is being traded for essentially the same package.

Why would Dallas give a big D who has played in the playoffs PLUS a first for a guy who disappears right about now, or sooner?

The deal makes no sense for Dallas, even without the 1st?

Washington was gonzo when they made that deal…

13 févr. à 23 h 44

KingofRnR

TrevorA

Rejoint: janv. 2021

Messages: 6,871

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Quoting: Rajvinder

For that package you get fired for turning it down.

You know this all for pretend, right!?

13 févr. à 23 h 52

#10

boltsfan71

Rejoint: juill. 2023

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Quoting: Rajvinder

In terms of real money it's actually almost identical to McCabe since his contract is back loaded.

different caliber of player

14 févr. à 0 h 11

#11

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: GM_SZK

Liligren is worth a 1st and 3rd he's a #3 for the next 7 years for a team.

If you want to argue Hakanpaa's value that's fine or if you want to argue the fit with Dallas you can but Lili's value isn't really debatable. People were having these arguments a year ago and the Sandin trade shows that this is clearly the value of a young 2nd pairing D.

14 févr. à 0 h 12

#12

Rajvinder

Former NHL Executive

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 710

Mentions "j'aime": 161

Quoting: boltsfan71

different caliber of player

Fair enough but I don't think any team offers this much without the retention.

Depending on who you ask it's 3-4 firsts worth of value.

14 févr. à 0 h 17

#13

GM_SZK

Puckhead

Rejoint: sept. 2023

Messages: 1,319

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Disagree, and I’m sure as does Dallas and most if not every other team…especially this time of year.

And what does worth mean? How does Liljegren help Dallas?

Answer a question?

KingofRnR a aimé ceci.

14 févr. à 0 h 17

#14

boltsfan71

Rejoint: juill. 2023

Messages: 1,918

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Fair enough but I don't think any team offers this much without the retention.

Depending on who you ask it's 3-4 firsts worth of value.

yea I dont mind the value but its gonna be hard to get that many years of retention on a guy that not really available

14 févr. à 1 h 4

#15

MoxNix

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 7,704

Mentions "j'aime": 3,247

Quoting: KingofRnR

Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

Even if he was available (you're right he isn't) Calgary wouldn't retain salary.

KingofRnR a aimé ceci.

14 févr. à 1 h 10

#16

MoxNix

Rejoint: août 2022

Messages: 7,704

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Not unprecedented. Chicago did it on McCabe last year. Similar amount for 3 years.

Calgary has retained salary exactly once. A deadline deal with 50% retention on David Rittich's expiring contract which had an AAV of just 2.75 mil.

KingofRnR a aimé ceci.

14 févr. à 7 h 46

#17

Rags21

Rejoint: août 2021

Messages: 5,338

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Easy pass for rangers, they don’t need picks

You guys need to stop listening to whatever Dreger says lol he’s wrong

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