2024 trade deadline for fun

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Créé par: nepTrystan

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 1 févr. 2024

Publié: 1 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Hey guys, i know 31 fanbase never agrees but idc i just want to make one for fun and see where it goes.

Monahan could get better, especially from a team like the rangers, but the feud between Gorton and the Rangers organization makes it less possible.

The Allen deal well they are not a lot of goalies on the market, and the experience + the leadership of allen is really good. The dump of Johanson is gonna cost, so thats why its steep.

For the harris trade, welp i think the habs kinda need to trade him now, even if the returns is not great since ts a logjamm and they need to play at least one of Hutson (when bcu is over) or mailloux for the end of the season. The stars get the advantage of getting him cheap.

Pearson is the type of guy Lou likes, so for me its a perfect match.

Please answer with respect, we dont have all the same opinion. I know no ones gonna like my ideas, just be respectful.

I planned on doing a full like Monahan trade list with what could be the return, he is in my eyes the biggest foward since Lindholm is gone, because of his position (Center) , but also his deal 2M$ (i know injuries but Lindholm has also this issue and cgy got a lot either way)

Transactions

MTL

Gunler, Noel
Suzuki, Ryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Habs get a good prospect in Gunler, no idea why he's not playing in the ahl right now, has good upsude
Also get Nick's brother, not a huge upside but more as a throw
And late first

So = monahan = 1rst and Gunler
Stephens and a 3rd = Ryan Suzuki

CAR

Monahan, Sean
Stephens, Mitchell
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Canes get a really good 2c/3c at a cheap contract + a ahl player who can help if injuries. Also getting a 3rd whos gonna be most probably easly

MTL

Johansen, Ryan
Olausson, Oskar
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Habs get a good prospect in Olausson and gelp solved the 3 gaoltenders issue. Also get a couple of extra picks.

Johansen has not worked in colorado and the habs will need roster players, if he bounced back he could get us something next season

COL

Allen, Jake

Détails additionnels:

This help Georgiev to not play 70 games and be rested for the playoffs. Johansen is also cash casualties, since he didnt work and it will help money wise

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

Harris is the odd man on the defence rn, soo trading him to make space is good, Struble played better, and the habs have a lot of youg defencer comming (Mailloux, Huston, Reinbacher, etc)

DAL

Harris, Jordan

Détails additionnels:

The Stars get a good top 6 D, whoch they need, at not an expensive price and under contract for cheap and young

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

4rth 2024 is conditionnal : became a 3rd 2025 if Pearson plays at least 50% of the remainning games and the isles makes the playoffs. It becames a first 2025 if the Islanders wins the cup & Pearsons plays at least 50% of the playoffs games

NYI

Pearson, Tanner (1 500 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Isles get a good 2way foward who can scores goals. They get him half price and it helps them for the playoffs push

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Tanner Pearson: 1 500 000 $ (46.15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	83 500 000 $	73 987 916 $	1 170 000 $	3 990 000 $	9 512 084 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Johansen, Ryan 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Gunler, Noel 862 500 $862 500 $ (12 500 $$12K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
		Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1
	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4

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UpsideDownQue

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Would you retain on Allen? I dont think hes worth 3.85M so without retention I think they would look elsewhere

MeetYourMakar et TJTwolf a aimé ceci.

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nepTrystan

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Quoting: UpsideDownQue

Would you retain on Allen? I dont think hes worth 3.85M so without retention I think they would look elsewhere

Retains half of Allen salary

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nepTrystan

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Canes laugh at you. Stephens isn't worth a 1st or Suzuki, and you're not getting a 1st for Monahan

This is not how the trade is

Its : Monahan for Gunler and a 1rst
Stephens ans a 3rd for Suzuki

Suzuki is not an nhl caliber yet, but he's still having upsides. Monahan is gonna cost a lot, idk the exact value of gunler, but its either a top prospect + sweetner or 1rst + good prospect

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: nepTrystan

You're going to be brutally disappointed when you get a conditional 2nd for Monahan. He's got too many injuries in his past to justify a Lindholm package. Canes decline

fullblowncaniac90 a aimé ceci.

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nepTrystan

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Quoting: Caniac2000

You're going to be brutally disappointed when you get a conditional 2nd for Monahan. He's got too many injuries in his past to justify a Lindholm package. Canes decline

He's gonna get a lot, i just think he fits more on the canes (or the rangers, but with the feud between gorton and the rangers..)

Btw tell me what center rn is a 2nd line center avaible, the answer is : no one

The market is for sellers, i dont think normally monahan would get that much, but because of the market, definitively

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: nepTrystan

Henrique, possibly Mikael Granlund, Phily are listening to offers on Laughton, all of which are probably more valuable than Monahan

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nepTrystan

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Henrique, possibly Mikael Granlund, Phily are listening to offers on Laughton, all of which are probably more valuable than Monahan

Laughton is interesting, but the flyers are in a playoffs spot, soo i dont think they gonna trade for just future

Henrique is more expensive by a lot in term of salary, not a lot of team have the cap space to do so, and if they need to send a cap dump/retain salary its not gonna be interesting, especially since monahan is better

Granlund... should not be your 2nd line center, hes okay but expensive, monahan again is better

The only one who's really better was lindholm, and he's already gone, and calgary got a lot for

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nepTrystan

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Henrique, possibly Mikael Granlund, Phily are listening to offers on Laughton, all of which are probably more valuable than Monahan

Remember that cap space is huge, and only a 2m$ salary is worth a lot

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Nightowl26

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Isles have no interest in Pearson, not looking for another 4th liner.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

You're going to be brutally disappointed when you get a conditional 2nd for Monahan. He's got too many injuries in his past to justify a Lindholm package. Canes decline

You don’t honestly think that’s equivalent to a Lindholm package, do you?

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: Suggestions709

You don’t honestly think that’s equivalent to a Lindholm package, do you?

I mean, it's not far off. It's lacking the cap dump and conditional 4th

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Quoting: Caniac2000

You're going to be brutally disappointed when you get a conditional 2nd for Monahan. He's got too many injuries in his past to justify a Lindholm package. Canes decline

Lol, many insiders (ex: Pierre Lebrun with TSN) said that Montreal will gonna receive a 1st round pick as a minimal price, and somes of them said that the Lindholm trade can make a massive overbidding at the TDL......

Did you know that any GM's in the league have the acces of all the medical reports on each players in the league ? If Monahan haved a issue about his health right now, the other GM's will not gonna be interested AND the reporters (who have contacts with somes executives members of each teams) will NOT gonna said that Monahan is REALLY in the trade market.

Ah and a last point, I remember somes peoples who belive that Montreal will never received somes high return for players like Toffoli, Kulak, Chiarot, Lehkonen, etc., but ALL of them have been wrong when the trade comes.............. Just stop to make the same mistake each season...........

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Quoting: UpsideDownQue

Would you retain on Allen? I dont think hes worth 3.85M so without retention I think they would look elsewhere

Retention and then some would be needed here.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

I mean, it's not far off. It's lacking the cap dump and conditional 4th

The cap dump who scored 40 goals last year yeah. It’s also lacking quality in the prospects. And it includes 2 additional pieces to the team acquiring Monahan that the Lindholm trade did not.

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Quoting: Nightowl26

Isles have no interest in Pearson, not looking for another 4th liner.

Tell that to Lou, last time I checked he was the one who made the calls.

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Quoting: ht42

They got a 3rd for Kulak, 2nds for Lehkonen, Florida overpaid for Chairot, and Toffoli was actually worth a 1st. No reporter has suggested that Monahan will return a 1st. He's a 3C, when was the last time a 3C returned a 1st? He's got a long history of injuries, and that's going to play a factor too. If you think you'll get a 1st, you're nuts

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Quoting: Suggestions709

The cap dump who scored 40 goals last year yeah. It’s also lacking quality in the prospects. And it includes 2 additional pieces to the team acquiring Monahan that the Lindholm trade did not.

Oh no, 40 goals in a career year where he shot 27%????? Who could have seen that it was unsustainable! Kuzmenko was being healthy scratched, he's a cap dump. This has prospects of similar quality to the Lindholm deal. Yes, Stephens and the 3rd are in this deal, Carolina don't want either, so they hold no value to the Canes

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Montreal got a 2nd and a 7th for Kulak, and they drafted one of the best prospect with this pick (Lane Hutson)....................

Montreal got Barron, who was a top prospect at the time...........

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Quoting: ht42

Montreal got a 2nd and a 7th for Kulak, and they drafted one of the best prospect with this pick (Lane Hutson)....................

Montreal got Barron, who was a top prospect at the time...........

Barron wasn't even the best Barron, stop it

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Quoting: Suggestions709

Tell that to Lou, last time I checked he was the one who made the calls.

you have the phone log? I doubt he would want a guy like this. How does this help the Isles? Another 4th liner.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Uh so what are you gonna say now? Still think they could've got more if they wait, but they didnt want to take the risk of him being injured

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Quoting: Nightowl26

you have the phone log? I doubt he would want a guy like this. How does this help the Isles? Another 4th liner.

I told it was his style of player and he could get him for late drafts picks, soo its what i think,he fits the isles on my opinion

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