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Jets linked to Barabanov via Pagnotta

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Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
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Jets linked to Barabanov seems weird but he'd definitely fit the chevy type move no one expects
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Idk what he's worth? Also if this is legit maybe the jets don't see a major issue with namestnikov 2nd line (definitely needs something below 40% on faceoffs)
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That's a move that I hate on the surface. Which means Chevy will do it and it'll likely be a good fit haha
Although Bowness is pretty clear in needed more faceoffs won. And the current guys aren't cutting it so they have to be looking at guys who can play with Nik and Cole and also win draws
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Yup…that’s a Chevy move.
Jets need C and RHD…so go get a LHW
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I think a 4th is about right for Barabanov with no retention.
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I think a 4th is about right for Barabanov with no retention.


He would have to waive as well. I don't see the fit personally but he wad great last year and probably cheap this deadline compared to the bigger names. Can maybe see if a contender brings back the almost 50 point guy
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Jets fans are ridiculous hypocrites, Pagnotta literally linked the Jets to Monahan on the 15th and most Jets fans started with the "Pagnotta isn't a reliable source" and "Monahan isn't what the Jets would be interested in" but somehow when he links the Jets to another player, he becomes a more reliable source lmao, Jets fans are hilarious!
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Jets fans are ridiculous hypocrites, Pagnotta literally linked the Jets to Monahan on the 15th and most Jets fans started with the "Pagnotta isn't a reliable source" and "Monahan isn't what the Jets would be interested in" but somehow when he links the Jets to another player, he becomes a more reliable source lmao, Jets fans are hilarious!


I'm not saying it's accurate at all just making a post on a player that was linked. Jets don't typically have many players they are linked to like other teams based on how chevy approaches deadlines
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I'm not saying it's accurate at all just making a post on a player that was linked. Jets don't typically have many players they are linked to like other teams based on how chevy approaches deadlines


As I said, Monahan was linked to the Jets on Jan 15th but almost every Jets fan on this site say that the Jets have no interest and wouldn't trade for him even going as far as saying he would be their 4C, it's just very insightful on how Jets fans are biased towards Habs players.
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As I said, Monahan was linked to the Jets on Jan 15th but almost every Jets fan on this site say that the Jets have no interest and wouldn't trade for him even going as far as saying he would be their 4C, it's just very insightful on how Jets fans are biased towards Habs players.


I'd be interested in Monahan but not for the 1st round pick something around mtl 2nd and something but no lambert barlow mcgroarty salomonsson yk
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I'd be interested in Monahan but not for the 1st round pick something around mtl 2nd and something but no lambert barlow mcgroarty salomonsson yk


I get that you don't like the value required to get him but as we saw with Lindholm, veteran players (especially those on good contracts) are worth way more than fans think
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Barabanov isn't the Shark the Jets should be after, Granlund is.

Do see Barabanov as a potential fit for the Canucks though.
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I get that you don't like the value required to get him but as we saw with Lindholm, veteran players (especially those on good contracts) are worth way more than fans think


Well based on what Lindholm got being more valuable than Monahan (1st bad 3rd round dman and a cond 4th, the good 3rd round d was for dumping kuzmenko) Monahan gets less! By how much? Idk but mtl fans expecting more than what Lindholm got are delusional
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Barabanov isn't the Shark the Jets should be after, Granlund is.

Do see Barabanov as a potential fit for the Canucks though.


Granlund isn't available anymore, sjs see him as a longer term piece and is injured anyway. Jets don't get Granlund bro move on to a new player
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Well based on what Lindholm got being more valuable than Monahan (1st bad 3rd round dman and a cond 4th, the good 3rd round d was for dumping kuzmenko) Monahan gets less! By how much? Idk but mtl fans expecting more than what Lindholm got are delusional


1. Kuzmenko isn't a cap dump, he is a good player having a bad year, so more of a cap offset.

2. I don't expect Monahan to get a Lindholm return and as I have said all along its gonna be a 1st + 3rd ish or a top prospect + mid/late round pick, anything more than that is nice but definitely not going less than that, especially with Lindholm off the board and many teams looking at Monahan as their next best option
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1. Kuzmenko isn't a cap dump, he is a good player having a bad year, so more of a cap offset.

2. I don't expect Monahan to get a Lindholm return and as I have said all along its gonna be a 1st + 3rd ish or a top prospect + mid/late round pick, anything more than that is nice but definitely not going less than that, especially with Lindholm off the board and many teams looking at Monahan as their next best option


Mtl 2nd already basically a 1st and trading Monahan will make that 2nd better best the jets could do is mtl 2nd torgersson levis and a 5th. I see a lot of Monahan for a 1st from mtl fans and very few from other teams. I'd say if he gets a 1st it's conditional. I would do the same deal above but if Jets win 2 rounds and Monahan plays 50% goes to jets 1st that's the only way I'd give up a 1st foe Monahan
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Granlund isn't available anymore, sjs see him as a longer term piece and is injured anyway. Jets don't get Granlund bro move on to a new player


Oh did you talk to Mike Grier?
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Mtl 2nd already basically a 1st and trading Monahan will make that 2nd better best the jets could do is mtl 2nd torgersson levis and a 5th. I see a lot of Monahan for a 1st from mtl fans and very few from other teams. I'd say if he gets a 1st it's conditional. I would do the same deal above but if Jets win 2 rounds and Monahan plays 50% goes to jets 1st that's the only way I'd give up a 1st foe Monahan


It isn't enough, their are a few teams fans offering 1st + 3rd worth of value (mostly NYR and Vancouver prior to the Lindholm trade)
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Oh did you talk to Mike Grier?


No but it's been reported by the hockey news and other outlets as well. They plan on keeping him similar to what they did with Barabanov last year and maybe trade him but they need players and if he's playing well sj could just keep him (which was been reported by again multiple outlets)
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It isn't enough, their are a few teams fans offering 1st + 3rd worth of value (mostly NYR and Vancouver prior to the Lindholm trade)


Vancouver now is out and appears nyr are targeting Tyler Johnson instead (as well as the weird nyr mtl stuff that idk about) so that leaves no teams
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Vancouver now is out and appears nyr are targeting Tyler Johnson instead (as well as the weird nyr mtl stuff that idk about) so that leaves no teams


1. If Drury isn't willing to trade with Hughes (or vise versa) they have no business being a GM in the NHL cause they are hurting their teams by letting a personal issue interfere with team success, just my opinion on the matter.

2. I doubt NYR are out on Monahan, they desperately need 2 centers now with Chytil done for the year.

3. There were 8 teams linked to Monahan a couple weeks ago, Vancouver acquiring Lindholm eliminated one, how do you figure that leaves "no one"? It only leaves no teams fans on this site willing to make that trade not the actual teams.
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1. If Drury isn't willing to trade with Hughes (or vise versa) they have no business being a GM in the NHL cause they are hurting their teams by letting a personal issue interfere with team success, just my opinion on the matter.

2. I doubt NYR are out on Monahan, they desperately need 2 centers now with Chytil done for the year.

3. There were 8 teams linked to Monahan a couple weeks ago, Vancouver acquiring Lindholm eliminated one, how do you figure that leaves "no one"? It only leaves no teams fans on this site willing to make that trade not the actual teams.


No fans of any other team seems to be trading that price for Monahan and you can't deny there is injury risk so if he gets a first cool, it's most likely conditional on winning a round or 2 and Monahan playing 50% of games so if they win but Monahan was injured they don't send the 1st as Monahan was non factor
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No fans of any other team seems to be trading that price for Monahan and you can't deny there is injury risk so if he gets a first cool, it's most likely conditional on winning a round or 2 and Monahan playing 50% of games so if they win but Monahan was injured they don't send the 1st as Monahan was non factor


Again fans on this site do not equate to NHL GM's. Everyone on here was saying a 1st + 2nd or 3rd for Lindholm and 2 2nds for Monahan. Lindholm got 1st + Kuzmenko (who just finished a 40 ish goal 75 ish point rookie campaign) his value might be down this year but is still really high probably around 2 2nds min + a very good RHD prospect who leads the OHL in points and is over a ppg (worth at least a 2nd) + Jurmo (recent 3rd round pick) + conditional 4th. That is a lot more than fans on this site thought he would get, it's actually closer to 2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd in value
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Again fans on this site do not equate to NHL GM's. Everyone on here was saying a 1st + 2nd or 3rd for Lindholm and 2 2nds for Monahan. Lindholm got 1st + Kuzmenko (who just finished a 40 ish goal 75 ish point rookie campaign) his value might be down this year but is still really high probably around 2 2nds min + a very good RHD prospect who leads the OHL in points and is over a ppg (worth at least a 2nd) + Jurmo (recent 3rd round pick) + conditional 4th. That is a lot more than fans on this site thought he would get, it's actually closer to 2 1sts + 2nd + 3rd in value


Kuzmenko is not worth that at all. He's been healthy scratched and played 4th line at a 5.5m cap hit its definitely a dump as 5.5m with trade protection with what he's done is not worth 2 2nds more like pay Hunter Brzustewicz to get rid of him.

It's no where close to 2 1sts! Let alone 2 1sts 2nd and 3rd. Jurmo is nothing he's likely not an nhler, 3rd only becomes a 3rd if they make conference finals, Hunter Brzustewicz is doing insane but his value hasn't really changed he's not going to be a lane hutson type guy more like what connor timmins is. So all in all a 1st in the 26-32 range, a forward that was shooting way above expected and this may be who he is and last season an outlier (again massive shooting %) and 2 prospect d one being trash and one likely a 5-6 offensive dman. In no way is that 2 1sts. Monahan if he gets a 1st will be conditional based on winning rounds and him staying healthy. That's how mtl gets a first
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Kuzmenko is not worth that at all. He's been healthy scratched and played 4th line at a 5.5m cap hit its definitely a dump as 5.5m with trade protection with what he's done is not worth 2 2nds more like pay Hunter Brzustewicz to get rid of him.

It's no where close to 2 1sts! Let alone 2 1sts 2nd and 3rd. Jurmo is nothing he's likely not an nhler, 3rd only becomes a 3rd if they make conference finals, Hunter Brzustewicz is doing insane but his value hasn't really changed he's not going to be a lane hutson type guy more like what connor timmins is. So all in all a 1st in the 26-32 range, a forward that was shooting way above expected and this may be who he is and last season an outlier (again massive shooting %) and 2 prospect d one being trash and one likely a 5-6 offensive dman. In no way is that 2 1sts. Monahan if he gets a 1st will be conditional based on winning rounds and him staying healthy. That's how mtl gets a first


LMAO, you seriously value picks higher than their worth. Jurmo has as much chance of making the NHL as any 3rd round pick in the upcoming draft does, that literally makes him worth a 3rd round pick, same with Hunter Brzustewicz, he won't be a Hutson but he is still worth a 2nd, possibly even a late 1st with how he is developing. Again Kuzmenko might not shoot at the same % he did last season but he just might as well, saying last year could be an outlier without considering this year could be the outlier is insanely hilarious hypocrisy. More likely (and this is what I based his value on) his norm is around 25+ goals and 50+ points much like DeBrusk, Lee, Lehkonen all are worth more than 2 2nds and Lehkonen even returned a top RHD prospect and for.er 1st round pick +, so yes Kuzmenko should have around 2 2nds worth of value minimum
 
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