quick is a borderline (i wouldnt even have him in my top 10) top 10 goalie let alone top 5 lol

Just out of curiousity, what is your TOP10 of goalies?

Lehner is good enough to be a starting goalie and he was a top 12 goalie with crap as defense. The kings are not trading quick and their is no reason to.

Starting goalie, maybe yes, but I don't think he is good enough to bring any cups for Sabres, even if the defense would be better.

in no order probably some combination of
price
holtby
rinne
lundqvist
bishop
schneider
bob
dubnyk
gibson
murray
rask, lehner, anderson, andersen, jones, talbot, crawford on the bubble

id take lehner over quick. he's way too underrated because the team around him struggles too much. no need to trade him in my opinion

Finally looks good seeing talbot getting some love but I do believe he's better then Gibson and played better then bishop and Schneider this year

That list wasnt based solely off of last year by the way or else lundqvist wouldnt even be top 25 for me
Schneider is an outstanding goalie, just in a really bad situation right now with the devils. i think the devils made big improvements this year so I can 100% see his numbers go up.
Bishop has his up and downs, but I think he has the talent of a top 10 goalie. He's borderline top 10 for me, could really go either way for me.
And I really like Talbot (used to hate him because he was a Ranger), but I think he'll solidify a spot in my top 10 within the next year as long as he plays like he did this year. He's another goalie that gets almost no love and I don't understand why.

My top 10 includes Price, Holtby, Bobrovsky, Bishop(as a stars fan, I can't help but be a little biased here ) Quick, Schneider, Rask, Rinne, Murray and Lundqvist.

I can't justify Quick in my top 10. I think he's the most overrated goalie in the league next to Crawford. 1 season in his career with a SV% of over .920 is awful for an alleged "top 5" goalie.

In my point of view, Talbot has always been in wrong place in wrong time. In NYR, he was being strictly a backup for Lundqvist, and EDM was in its worst when he was traded there. I think that after this season, his name is going to be cleared from the "Okay goaltender" into a much better one, just like for example, Martin Jones did.

Sure would help the Kings with their cap issues next year.

So by your logic, factoring in last years performance, Steven Stampkos is a bum. I know there is an east coast bias amongst many fans and I understand it. You don't get the chance to see a ton of west coast games, but to have ALL these goalies rated above Quick is assinine. He is a legit, big game goalie Throw your save % out the window. He makes BIG saves when they count, like in the cup finals.

Just because you have a good goalie doesn't mean you are going to win. You need a balance throughout your lineup. You don't need a superstar goalie to win a cup, you need a starting goalie.

Thank you for putting words into my mouth that I never said. Literally my first sentence "this isn't based off of last year solely" and your first point is completely the opposite of what I said. And congrats everyone knows Quick is a playoff goalie. I'm not rating this based off the playoffs or Crawford would be top 5. So I'll keep my SV% (which is a FANTASTIC basis when ranking goalies) and you can hang on to a goalie who's worth to you is apparently based solely off the playoffs.

Braden Holtby is no where close to being a top 5 goalie. He is a 100% Product of the System. He can be easily replaced by any backup (see Grubauer) and they still make the playoffs. He doesn't considerably make whatever team is on so much better to justify him being in the top 5.

1.) Carey Price
2.) Pekka Rinne
3.) Jonathan Quick
4.) Sergie Bobrovsky
5.) Devin Dubnyuk
6.) John Gibson
7.) Cory Schneider
8.) Henrick Lunquvist
9.) Braden Holtby
10.) Cam Talbot

I'm gonna start out with I 100% agree with you that Holtby is a system goalie put into a great situation, he's definitely top 10, borderline top 5 but would take a dip if put in a different situation. And you could also argue Quick is a system goalie though; just look at Budaj, Bernier, and Jones when they were Kings. Budaj and Bernier are really nothing but career backups who played very well there and I wouldn't put Jones in my top 10 but he flourished with his time on the Kings.

I'm glad I can find someone with the right sense of mind with "product of the system." My thing on Quick is that Martin Jones is still good, Budaj has bounced around and Bernier is still a decent backup.

I still think that if you put Quick on lets say the Flyers, they make the top-3 of the Metro. high stretch, but I'll be able to contend that they make the WC, which is more realistic.

A team like the Flyers, a Quick upgrade over Mason (who I really wish was better cause I love his play style) would do a number. I'm not saying Quick is an awful goalie, I do however think he's majorly overrated (people bring up the cups way too much), I think he's decent, I don't think he's top 10; I do think he would be the type of guy to bring the Flyers over the hump but say a team like Buffalo I can't see him doing all that much for. I really think people underrate Lehner just because of the team he's on even when he puts up ridiculous numbers (think he was top 5 or 10 in SV% this year). All in all I think it depends on the situation Quick is put into, a team that's struggling would love him in net but put him on say the Predators and I really think you'll see a difference in stats between him and Pekka

Cups to me, are not an indicator of skill. Connor Sheary won a Stanley Cup. he is no better than guys like Nick Cousins, or Philip di Guisseppe or Oskar Lindberg.

I understand your contention and I agree somewhat. I just think that he has the ability to 1.) create wins 2.) be a solid, reliable, goalie (when healthy) and 3.) athletic as hell.

Connor Sheary is another POS (product of the system)

Sabres goaltening is not the issue, their players have one of the worst puck possession stats in the league and can not score. That being said, i dont mind the LA trade, but I'd want nothing to do with that Washington trade.