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Pens Buy and Sell at TDL

Créé par: LC_Colorado
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2024
Publié: 23 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  2. Räty, Aatu
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Pens get a good Center prospect (they need those) and a 1st (since they’re most likely not getting their own back)
VAN
  1. Guentzel, Jake
Détails additionnels:
As much as I want Guentzel to stay a Penguin, we may have to trade him. After Willy Nylander signed that $11.5M AAV extension, Guentzel is probably going to want something high like that. At least here Pens can get some kind of haul for Guentz while they still have him.
2.
PIT
  1. Hanifin, Noah
Détails additionnels:
Pens need a Top Pairing LD. Dubas brought in Graves in free agency to be the big and tall dman that we need on our top pair. However, this has shown to not work that well. Graves doesn’t really fit anywhere on our pairings, so it’s time we let him go.

I suggested this trade a while back too and people didn’t really hate it. I find it to be a good trade. However, Pens do also have to retain $1.5M on Graves which will bite into their dead cap for 6 years (because I doubt that either A. Anybody wants him or B. Anyone wants to retain $1.5M for 6 years straight).

Also Pens can add a 4th for retention
CGY
  1. Graves, Ryan (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Smith, Reilly
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Harkins, Jansen
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
5.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
COL
  1. Ruhwedel, Chad
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
6.
CAR
    What would his cost be? (That being if Carolina wants to trade him)
    7.
    ANA
      What would his cost be?

      (Retention would also be needed)
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2083 500 000 $78 654 342 $0 $0 $4 845 658 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
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      8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 2
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      5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
      AD, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 3
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      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
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      925 000 $925 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
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      2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
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      775 000 $775 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
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      775 000 $775 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
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      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
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      3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
      AD, C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
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      5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
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      4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
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      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
      687 500 $687 500 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      900 000 $900 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 2

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      23 janv. à 22 h 27
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      pens1991
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      No on Lyubushkin
      Pens and CGY decline (Flames can get better deal, pens aren't going to retain for 5 seasons).
      NJD also probably declines, feel like they need more on the blue line/in net.
      23 janv. à 22 h 45
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      Future Norris guy
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      So basically the Pens are in a selloff here, Yet they trade for Noah Hanifin. Yeah i seriously doubt that.
      23 janv. à 22 h 53
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      Canucks pass. Too much for a rental.IMHO.
      23 janv. à 22 h 59
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      Canucks pass.
      Dubas isnt interested in Kuzmenko.
      He rather keep Guentzel than trade him.
      23 janv. à 23 h 2
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      Once a Kings Fan Too
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      "It’s time we let him go"?!?!? Ryan Graves hasn't played 45 games for you yet. He's third on your team in plus-minus (among defenders) and fourth in ice time. What did you expect from a guy who's new to the organization? And what if Noah Hanifin decides to go elsewhere next July? Then instead of having Ryan Graves for 5 more seasons as part of your top 4, you have a Ryan-Graves-sized hole that has to be re-filled, the cost of which is going to be increased by $1.5 million per season because of the retention. Meanwhile, you've also given up your 2024 first, which could be as early as 12th overall. And what's the basis for thinking that Hanifin is going to mesh better with the team in 35 games under fire than Graves has in 44 plus all of training camp?

      Personally, as a completely disinterested outsider, this seems like a short-sighted and risky approach and highly likely to be a disastrously losing strategy.
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      24 janv. à 0 h 2
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      "It’s time we let him go"?!?!? Ryan Graves hasn't played 45 games for you yet. He's third on your team in plus-minus (among defenders) and fourth in ice time. What did you expect from a guy who's new to the organization? And what if Noah Hanifin decides to go elsewhere next July? Then instead of having Ryan Graves for 5 more seasons as part of your top 4, you have a Ryan-Graves-sized hole that has to be re-filled, the cost of which is going to be increased by $1.5 million per season because of the retention. Meanwhile, you've also given up your 2024 first, which could be as early as 12th overall. And what's the basis for thinking that Hanifin is going to mesh better with the team in 35 games under fire than Graves has in 44 plus all of training camp?

      Personally, as a completely disinterested outsider, this seems like a short-sighted and risky approach and highly likely to be a disastrously losing strategy.


      You could have had a "dug your own grave" pun in there with the retention....

      Missed opportunities
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      24 janv. à 1 h 55
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      Looks fair price for Guentzel. I kind of hope Canucks don't do that - but it looks in the realm of possibilities.
       
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