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Équipe: 2024-25 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 21 janv. 2024
Publié: 21 janv. 2024
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if we were to trade Mitch this offseason, what are some realistic traits he would accept a trade to if it comes with an extension and what would we get? To me we need a 2nd line Center or a Top 4 RHD even though there are lots of great options this off-season. please comment trades. if we trade for a second line center, please try to keep in mind, I would want a good face off man and defensively responsible
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21 janv. à 13 h 51
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Top pair RHD is the only solution if he waives
21 janv. à 13 h 57
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Top pair RHD is the only solution if he waives


i’m saying if he waives what do you think is a realistic trade? When looking at next year’s FA’s Matt Roy, Dylan Demelo, Tanev, Myers, Pesce and Hakanpaa. Ideally with all the talk about rebuilding the Dcore I’d love a Rielly-Demelo, Blank(Maybe Hanafin)-Roy and McCabe- Tanev,Myers or Hakanpaa so that makes me want to go get a 2nd line C. We will have cap space depending if we make a Mitch trade and what the cap return we get back. The Depth Forwards are also available next year which we can rebuild the bottom 6 but not really a top 6 F besides Lindholm and he would cost too must and personally I don’t think we should buy at this year’s TDL
21 janv. à 13 h 58
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Not sure if the team you chose was random, but he definitely will not be going to the Blues.
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i’m saying if he waives what do you think is a realistic trade? When looking at next year’s FA’s Matt Roy, Dylan Demelo, Tanev, Myers, Pesce and Hakanpaa. Ideally with all the talk about rebuilding the Dcore I’d love a Rielly-Demelo, Blank-Roy and McCabe- Tanev,Myers or Hakanpaa so that makes me want to go get a 2nd line C. We will have cap space depending if we make a Mitch trade and what the cap return we get back.


I don’t know pulock and a 1st, weegar and a 2nd I don’t know but we need a 1RHD out of him if he’s waiving maybe ekblad and a 1st I actually made a trade for that earlier this week but people didn’t seem too interested
21 janv. à 13 h 59
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Mitch has to agree to any trade. He won’t. By firing Kyle Dubas, Brendon Shanahan stopped any chance the Leafs had to trade Marner. It’s Brendon’s team, we just finance it. It’s Brendon’s team, Sheldon just apologizes for them… Brendon makes sure of that.
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21 janv. à 14 h 2
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Mitch has to agree to any trade. He won’t. By firing Kyle Dubas, Brendon Shanahan stopped any chance the Leafs had to trade Marner. It’s Brendon’s team, we just finance it. It’s Brendon’s team, Sheldon just apologizes for them… Brendon makes sure of that.


I think he’d be willing to waive for some teams. and I know it is Shanny’s team and that’s most of the problem. He needs to be fired asap. And I know he has to waive
21 janv. à 14 h 3
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I don’t know pulock and a 1st, weegar and a 2nd I don’t know but we need a 1RHD out of him if he’s waiving maybe ekblad and a 1st I actually made a trade for that earlier this week but people didn’t seem too interested


But if our RHD core looks like what I just drew up then why do we need a RHD? Thats a really good Dcore
21 janv. à 14 h 8
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But if our RHD core looks like what I just drew up then why do we need a RHD? Thats a really good Dcore


You have timmins on the right side that’s it, sure we resign lily but still need 1 top 4 RHD
21 janv. à 14 h 11
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You have timmins on the right side that’s it, sure we resign lily but still need 1 top 4 RHD


When looking at next year’s FA’s Matt Roy, Dylan Demelo, Tanev, Myers, Pesce and Hakanpaa. Ideally with all the talk about rebuilding the Dcore I’d love a Rielly-Demelo, Blank-Roy and McCabe- Tanev,Myers or Hakanpaa so that makes me want to go get a 2nd line C. We will have cap space depending if we make a Mitch trade and what the cap return we get back. TIMMINS won’t be on this team next year. Don’t look at this team
21 janv. à 14 h 12
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Doesn't even matter anymore.

John Tavares isn't a star anymore, and his contract will be up soon anyway. There was always an issue with allocating that much of the cap to those 4 forwards, but that won't be an issue once JT is gone.

Even if you hate Marner, you still NEED superstars in order to win a cup. Obviously, you need depth, but the stars are way harder to acquire. Once Tavares' new contract kicks in, it'll be much easier to fill the holes on the roster. Having Marner-Matthews-Nylander making 11-13 million dollars each won't hinder the team the way our previous structure did.

Nevertheless, if you wanted to trade Mitch (assuming he'd waive), you're likely not getting anything back from a team that would actually be equivalent to the impact/value Mitch has. An elite #1 defenceman would be the only thing that could work, but no team is giving up their elite #1 defenceman.
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Doesn't even matter anymore.

John Tavares isn't a star anymore, and his contract will be up soon anyway. There was always an issue with allocating that much of the cap to those 4 forwards, but that won't be an issue once JT is gone.

Even if you hate Marner, you still NEED superstars in order to win a cup. Obviously, you need depth, but the stars are way harder to acquire. Once Tavares' new contract kicks in, it'll be much easier to fill the holes on the roster. Having Marner-Matthews-Nylander making 11-13 million dollars each won't hinder the team the way our previous structure did.

Nevertheless, if you wanted to trade Mitch (assuming he'd waive), you're likely not getting anything back from a team that would actually be equivalent to the impact/value Mitch has. An elite #1 defenceman would be the only thing that could work, but no team is giving up their elite #1 defenceman.


Multiple things here. I agree. It will be easier when JT is done with this contract, but we haven’t won **** besides 1 playoff round. 2) you don’t need more than 1 or 2 superstars to win in my opinion. Also it can very from person to person from which person decides a player is a star or a superstar. But When looking at next year’s FA’s Matt Roy, Dylan Demelo, Tanev, Myers, Pesce and Hakanpaa. Ideally with all the talk about rebuilding the Dcore I’d love a Rielly-Demelo, Blank(Maybe Hanafin)-Roy and McCabe- Tanev,Myers or Hakanpaa so that makes me want to go get a 2nd line C. We will have cap space depending if we make a Mitch trade and what the cap return we get back. TIMMINS won’t be on this team next year
21 janv. à 14 h 50
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Mitch Marner is not waiving. Period. My guess is he signs extension in summer. 12.5x8. 100 mill. He’s going for the all time leader in points by a leaf.
21 janv. à 14 h 56
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Multiple things here. I agree. It will be easier when JT is done with this contract, but we haven’t won **** besides 1 playoff round. 2) you don’t need more than 1 or 2 superstars to win in my opinion. Also it can very from person to person from which person decides a player is a star or a superstar. But When looking at next year’s FA’s Matt Roy, Dylan Demelo, Tanev, Myers, Pesce and Hakanpaa. Ideally with all the talk about rebuilding the Dcore I’d love a Rielly-Demelo, Blank(Maybe Hanafin)-Roy and McCabe- Tanev,Myers or Hakanpaa so that makes me want to go get a 2nd line C. We will have cap space depending if we make a Mitch trade and what the cap return we get back. TIMMINS won’t be on this team next year


That just seems completely unnecessary, though. Rebuild the DCore through FA this off-season, then find a 2C the next off-season when JT's 11 million comes off the books.

I guess we have different definitions of star players. Can't think of a team in the last decade besides St. Louis that won the cup with less than 3 star players. Everyone wants to make a big point about how these teams win with depth (which is very true). However, most people say that these teams win "because" of depth.

Not that it matters, but my definition of star/superstar or whatever:

Colorado Avalanche: Mackinnon, Makar, Rantenen, Landeskog
Tampa Bay Lightning: Kucherov, Stamkos, Point, Hedman, Vasy
Washington Capitals: Ovi, Backstrom, Carlson, Holtby (was playing like the best goalie in the world)
Pens: (I shouldn't even have to name)

I could go on and on. But my point is that these players are just as (really, a lot more) important to have on a team if you want to win a Stanley Cup than a bunch of decent middle-sixers.
And this supporting cast can still be had without trading Marner. Just wait two years; we'll be in the best position to win a Stanley Cup. Knies/Woll will both be better, Cowan/Minten could be impactful players on ELCs, along with all the cap space we have to throw at other players in the 24' and 25' free agency.
21 janv. à 23 h 24
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