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What if the Devils were Sellers

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Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2024
Publié: 20 janv. 2024
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This is simply an exercise if what if the Devils sold at the TDL, Do I think they will sell? I don’t know, maybe? It kind of depends on how the rest of their season goes and if they can get healthy.

I haven’t done a mock in while, so please send me your feedback. All constructive criticism appreciated.
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NJD
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
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I think if you can get the 1st and Broberg, that’s some pretty tidy business. I do think it’ll be an either or where Edmonton will either give you Broberg or the 1st, not both.

I think you do what it takes to get this ask. Retaining salary is start, being willing to pay for the double retention, sending a controllable B6 player, or taking a rental cap dump of their choice.
EDM
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
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I’d take a 2024 2nd instead of it means we can acquire Broberg. The Devils will value young players more than the draft pick.

I’m also sending the 4th to Edmonton (provided we can get this return) given that they’ll need to flip it for a bottom six guy or getting double retention Toffoli.

I don’t mind paying the third team to get double retention for Edmonton if it means you can acquire the 1st and Broberg. Feels like it’ll be an either or though.

Also, if we’re not gonna help Edmonton do double retention, I don’t mind taking a rental cap dump back of your choice.
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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Any team that needs PK help*
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NJD
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
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Any team that needs a good 3RD*
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NJD
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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Anyone who needs a 4th liner or depth*
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20 janv. à 14 h 40
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Toffoli - 2nd and older prospect
Miller - mid to late pick
Nosek - late pick if healthy
Smith - I think he stays
Tierney - Maybe 7th or FC

I wouldn’t expect a huge year if we sell since we would want everyone around next year.
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Brendan Smith to VCR?
No thanks.
I don’t want him going near Quinn Hughes.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Toffoli - 2nd and older prospect
Miller - mid to late pick
Nosek - late pick if healthy
Smith - I think he stays
Tierney - Maybe 7th or FC

I wouldn’t expect a huge year if we sell since we would want everyone around next year.


I still firmly believe we can get a 1st or 1st equivalent for Toffoli. His underlying numbers are still fantastic and he’s still a very very good player. He just plays a bit slow for jersey
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Brendan Smith to VCR?
No thanks.
I don’t want him going near Quinn Hughes.


I don’t think you read the part that said any team that needs PK help. Vancouver is one of many contenders that need PK help
20 janv. à 15 h 23
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Probably a reasonable idea to sell some assets given NJD's future, however they should start with getting rid of their coach. Wrong guy for this group.
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I don’t think you read the part that said any team that needs PK help. Vancouver is one of many contenders that need PK help


Oh.
My bad.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Toffoli - 2nd and older prospect
Miller - mid to late pick
Nosek - late pick if healthy
Smith - I think he stays
Tierney - Maybe 7th or FC

I wouldn’t expect a huge year if we sell since we would want everyone around next year.


I expect Toffoli to at least fetch the Lehkonen to COL deal if it’s a player deal
- 2nd RD pick
- 1st RD prospect/player. I don’t think Broberg is as valuable as Justin Barron was at the TDL as he is older and a LHD.

Also Bertuzzi got a 1st and 4th with salary retained from Boston last year, so there’s multiple ways of making this trade.

When it comes to Miller, any good 3RD will at least get a 3rd (L. Schenn) or 3rd+ (Zadorov) and while Smith may stay, he’s a rental, replaceable and can always be brought back in the offseason. I don’t have the Devils trading anyone with term. I also expect the Devils to trade some of the picks they accumulate and try to package it for an established goalie in the offseason. Nosek would be like Nyquist, except worse so a 6th/7th is his value.
20 janv. à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
Probably a reasonable idea to sell some assets given NJD's future, however they should start with getting rid of their coach. Wrong guy for this group.


Don’t think you’ll find a single NJD fan on here disagreeing with that statement
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Probably a reasonable idea to sell some assets given NJD's future, however they should start with getting rid of their coach. Wrong guy for this group.


I think if they aren’t confident that they can make a run in the playoffs, they should sell and acquire future assets and use those picks and prospects acquired to really go after an established goalie in the offseason. We are injured to no bounds this season. On your second point, I do think that Ruff should be replaced, but I also admit I supported the extension. I really wanted Brunette, but he left for Nashville. Yes, the PP has gotten significantly better since Bruno was removed, but our PK fell off a cliff.
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I still firmly believe we can get a 1st or 1st equivalent for Toffoli. His underlying numbers are still fantastic and he’s still a very very good player. He just plays a bit slow for jersey


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I expect Toffoli to at least fetch the Lehkonen to COL deal if it’s a player deal
- 2nd RD pick
- 1st RD prospect/player. I don’t think Broberg is as valuable as Justin Barron was at the TDL as he is older and a LHD.

Also Bertuzzi got a 1st and 4th with salary retained from Boston last year, so there’s multiple ways of making this trade.

When it comes to Miller, any good 3RD will at least get a 3rd (L. Schenn) or 3rd+ (Zadorov) and while Smith may stay, he’s a rental, replaceable and can always be brought back in the offseason. I don’t have the Devils trading anyone with term. I also expect the Devils to trade some of the picks they accumulate and try to package it for an established goalie in the offseason. Nosek would be like Nyquist, except worse so a 6th/7th is his value.


I think we can get a good return for Toffoli at $2m…I just think Fitzy would more likely plug a hole if he could. Maybe solid heavy bottom-sixer…but undervalued dman…whatever. I do t think a late 1st is as likely to help us in 2024-25.
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I think we can get a good return for Toffoli at $2m…I just think Fitzy would more likely plug a hole if he could. Maybe solid heavy bottom-sixer…but undervalued dman…whatever. I do t think a late 1st is as likely to help us in 2024-25.


Depends on who the team is. If they don’t have a player like that on the roster I’m not gonna take a worse return to look for something specific

I’m not saying pick someone with the 1st.

Look at what Washington did with turning Orlov into a 1st into Sandin

Or Vancouver turning Horvat into a 1st into hronek

Picks are very liquid
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I think we can get a good return for Toffoli at $2m…I just think Fitzy would more likely plug a hole if he could. Maybe solid heavy bottom-sixer…but undervalued dman…whatever. I do t think a late 1st is as likely to help us in 2024-25.


I think you can replace Broberg with Holloway, but Edmonton might not want to move him. Or just simply trading Toffoli to a different team and gaining an M6 FWD (of the Broberg, Holloway grade) who’s still has team control, plus a draft pick. I’m trying to stay realistic because contenders will not trade already established controllable assets or top 50 skating prospects, unless they’re getting multiple years of control.
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I think if they aren’t confident that they can make a run in the playoffs, they should sell and acquire future assets and use those picks and prospects acquired to really go after an established goalie in the offseason. We are injured to no bounds this season. On your second point, I do think that Ruff should be replaced, but I also admit I supported the extension. I really wanted Brunette, but he left for Nashville. Yes, the PP has gotten significantly better since Bruno was removed, but our PK fell off a cliff.


I think the NJDs should hire Jim Benning as their GM and he'll fire Lindy Ruff.
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Depends on who the team is. If they don’t have a player like that on the roster I’m not gonna take a worse return to look for something specific

I’m not saying pick someone with the 1st.

Look at what Washington did with turning Orlov into a 1st into Sandin

Or Vancouver turning Horvat into a 1st into hronek

Picks are very liquid


Yep and I expect Fitz to flip any acquired first for an NHL player (preferably goalie). It just gives you so many more options and leverage in trades. Also, it doesn’t hurt to just keep the pick since Fitzy is a good drafter and keeps the pool filled
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Yep and I expect Fitz to flip any acquired first for an NHL player (preferably goalie). It just gives you so many more options and leverage in trades. Also, it doesn’t hurt to just keep the pick since Fitzy is a good drafter and keeps the pool filled


If fitz has a guy he likes. Take him, if not use the pick to go for a position of need. Either defense or goalie
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Yep and I expect Fitz to flip any acquired first for an NHL player (preferably goalie). It just gives you so many more options and leverage in trades. Also, it doesn’t hurt to just keep the pick since Fitzy is a good drafter and keeps the pool filled


Agree. If we can get a worthwhile young player, great. Otherwise a pick is liquidity…can always move it later.

(But hopefully don’t have to sell anyone)
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Agree. If we can get a worthwhile young player, great. Otherwise a pick is liquidity…can always move it later.

(But hopefully don’t have to sell anyone)


I think I’d try and move toffoli as a pivot to a dman or goalie even if we go in this year.
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I think I’d try and move toffoli as a pivot to a dman or goalie even if we go in this year.
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Who needs winger?

Tyler Toffoli to ….

FLA for Knight? (+)
NSH for ??
EDM for ??
VGK for ??
NYI for Wahlstrom, pick?
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Who needs winger?

Tyler Toffoli to ….

FLA for Knight? (+)
NSH for ??
EDM for ??
VGK for ??
NYI for Wahlstrom, pick?


The funniest thing is I can think of 1 team in the NHL that has the biggest possible need for Tyler toffoli imo.

It’s the rags
20 janv. à 16 h 33
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Probably a reasonable idea to sell some assets given NJD's future, however they should start with getting rid of their coach. Wrong guy for this group.


Lane Lambert just became available
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The funniest thing is I can think of 1 team in the NHL that has the biggest possible need for Tyler toffoli imo.

It’s the rags


I'd rather eat the contract
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I'd rather eat the contract


2 1sts and I’d sell them toffoli.
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Who needs winger?

Tyler Toffoli to ….

FLA for Knight? (+)
NSH for ??
EDM for ??
VGK for ??
NYI for Wahlstrom, pick?


Fan and Gibb, you guys have me onboard with TT out
21 janv. à 19 h 49
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The funniest thing is I can think of 1 team in the NHL that has the biggest possible need for Tyler toffoli imo.

It’s the rags


Quoting: Smitty426
Fan and Gibb, you guys have me onboard with TT out


Latest Ranger ACGM is selling K’Andre Miller
21 janv. à 19 h 51
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Latest Ranger ACGM is selling K’Andre Miller


He's been quite a mess according to my rangers buddies.

I'd like to recoup on the Michael grabber trade
 
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