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The realistic Van trade

Créé par: Sabresforlife
Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2024
Publié: 17 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
BUF
  1. Podkolzin, Vasily
  2. Willander, Tom [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $69 173 570 $0 $6 070 000 $14 326 430 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG
RFA - 3
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
G
RFA - 2
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4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 7
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4

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17 janv. à 23 h 19
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Canucks are not trading Tom Willander 😡
He’s not available.
No thank you.
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17 janv. à 23 h 26
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Keep Mittlestadt.

What do you want for Greenway?
17 janv. à 23 h 28
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Van doesn't have the cap for that
17 janv. à 23 h 30
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Nah dawg. Greenway is a guy we need for the (eventual) playoff run. Big and tough but also skilled. And if we're trading Mittelstadt, it needs to be for a top 4 D right NOW. We can't play the 4 year waiting game anymore. And Podkolzin is a fine player, but Buffalo has enough of his style.
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17 janv. à 23 h 34
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Extremely not realistic
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17 janv. à 23 h 40
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Quoting: Vancity2196
Canucks are not trading Tom Willander 😡
He’s not available.
No thank you.
Then keep Greenway and Mittelstadt out of your trades where you offer garbage.
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18 janv. à 0 h 19
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Quoting: zackhendo
Keep Mittlestadt.

What do you want for Greenway?


They prob want a pick and a top 9 player
18 janv. à 0 h 33
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Extremely not realistic


Willander and a 1st is minimum for Mittelstadt
18 janv. à 0 h 43
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Willander and a 1st is minimum for Mittelstadt


If we’re trading Willander and a 1st then we’d be going for Thompson not Mittelstadt
18 janv. à 0 h 44
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If we’re trading Willander and a 1st then we’d be going for Thompson not Mittelstadt


Thompson costs way more
18 janv. à 0 h 44
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Then keep Greenway and Mittelstadt out of your trades where you offer garbage.


The offer in that ACGM for Mittelstadt and Greenway had Lekkerimaki, Raty, Kuzmenko, and a 1st. That’s far from garbage. It’s an elite prospect, another B+ prospect, a middle 6 winger with 1st line upside, and a 1st. Which is a huge overpay
18 janv. à 0 h 45
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Thompson costs way more


Willander + a 1st returns a much better player than Mittelstadt
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18 janv. à 0 h 49
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Willander + a 1st returns a much better player than Mittelstadt


Not likely. Name them
18 janv. à 1 h 0
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Not likely. Name them


Guentzel likely costs less than that and is undoubtedly better

Zegras despite his struggles this year

If he became available JEE

Chychrun would cost less (tough to compare dman to forward though)

If the Canucks are moving Willander + a 1st it’s as the 2 big pieces of a package to get a superstar player, and there’s plenty of better targets than Mittelstadt
18 janv. à 1 h 10
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Willander and a 1st is minimum for Mittelstadt


Based on your own ACGM less than a week ago the price for Mittelstadt is a 1st and scraps

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4812261
18 janv. à 1 h 11
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Quoting: mv21227
The offer in that ACGM for Mittelstadt and Greenway had Lekkerimaki, Raty, Kuzmenko, and a 1st. That’s far from garbage. It’s an elite prospect, another B+ prospect, a middle 6 winger with 1st line upside, and a 1st. Which is a huge overpay
For us Kuzmenko has negative value, Maybe for a team like Montreal who has less forwards and more D talent he has value
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18 janv. à 1 h 14
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Guentzel likely costs less than that and is undoubtedly better

Zegras despite his struggles this year

If he became available JEE

Chychrun would cost less (tough to compare dman to forward though)

If the Canucks are moving Willander + a 1st it’s as the 2 big pieces of a package to get a superstar player, and there’s plenty of better targets than Mittelstadt


Mittelstadt is a young 60-70 point forward with more 5v5 points than everyone mentioned and hasnt had Crosby feeding him. He's not going to be discounted because a bad coach didn't utilize him properly 3 years ago
18 janv. à 1 h 15
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Quoting: mv21227
Based on your own ACGM less than a week ago the price for Mittelstadt is a 1st and scraps

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4812261


Seth Jones is scraps... lol
18 janv. à 1 h 25
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Seth Jones is scraps... lol


The trade was a 1st, 3rd, Johansen, and Chris Romaine. Not Seth Jones

You flipped the 1st and Johansen with another 1st, Ostlund, and Clifton to get Jones. But Mittelstadt himself according to you is worth a late 1st, a 3rd, a borderline cap dump, and a throw in prospect
18 janv. à 1 h 27
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Mittelstadt is a young 60-70 point forward with more 5v5 points than everyone mentioned and hasnt had Crosby feeding him. He's not going to be discounted because a bad coach didn't utilize him properly 3 years ago


Guentzel is above a PPG in his career in 38 games without Crosby. He’s great on his own, and is also a proven playoff performer. He’s most definitely better than Mittelstadt
18 janv. à 1 h 32
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Guentzel is above a PPG in his career in 38 games without Crosby. He’s great on his own, and is also a proven playoff performer. He’s most definitely better than Mittelstadt


38 games isnt half a season, for a player in his 8th season who played 500 games, and when he's not with Crosby he's with Malkin. Guentzel also walks after this year
18 janv. à 5 h 7
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Kevin Fiala got Faber and Minnesota 1st which was higher than what Vancouvers will be. Fiala basically exploded the year he was traded. Mitts is outscoring him on a crappier team. Jesus since last January he's been better than Fiala and Timo Meier.
 
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