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True Pros

Créé par: Theo_nollaf
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 13 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 97
Saison restante: 51%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 84 746 781 $
Description
Man I do not know what to do with this Sens team. I've heard many times that they need to move a core player but, for one reason or another, it seems like almost everyone on this team is hard to trade. For me, Batherson is a really talented winger having a nice season with a contract that makes him more valuble than his play alone. He's not a guy I assosciate as being an essential piece of this team and therefore the best guy to move. I also can't see Ottawa simply taking back futures in any core piece trade (We all know what Friedge said about 'True Pros'). Seattle is a great fit here with strong depth but a need for good, young, offensive talent. In return, Ottawa gets three good pieces in a 2nd, a young and signed right-shot defenseman, and a middle-six centre. Many will say Wennberg is not a need, but I think Ottawa simply needs bodies and I think he could help acclimate Pinto as he returns, while also moving to a shut down role. I figure Ottawa could get him to waive his NTC. Brannstrom finally feels on the way out, and getting a pick and player is a decent enough haul from the Wild who really just need a shot at some upside. Carolina was a team interested in Tarasenko this offseason and he would come now as a cheap rental with upside. Kubalik could honestly go anywhere there is no space for him in Ottawa. With these moves Ottawa would open up heaps of flexibility for next season cap-wise and get more prospects into their system, making for an overall better future. Now go tell me why I'm wrong
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
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  1. Borgen, William
  2. Wennberg, Alexander
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
2024 2nd Roud Pick converts to a 2024 First if Seattle reaches the WCF with Batherson playing 50% of games
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  1. Petan, Nicolas
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
2024 3rd converts to Carolina's 2024 Second Round Pick if Carolina reaches the SCF
4.
OTT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NSH)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $76 579 880 $0 $1 850 000 $6 920 120 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

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8 350 000 $4 218 490 $
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UFA - 8
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1 100 000 $555 729 $
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RFA - 1
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863 333 $436 163 $
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7 950 000 $4 016 406 $
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UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $3 283 854 $
AD, C
NMC
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762 500 $385 221 $
AG
RFA - 1
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2 250 000 $1 136 719 $
C
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UFA - 1
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2 950 000 $1 490 365 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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762 500 $385 221 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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835 000 $421 849 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $391 536 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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925 000 $467 318 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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2 700 000 $1 364 063 $
DD
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $2 020 833 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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8 000 000 $4 041 667 $
DG
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4 600 000 $2 323 958 $
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2 750 000 $1 389 323 $
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4 600 000 $2 323 958 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 2
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805 000 $406 693 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 100 000 $555 729 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2
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775 000 $391 536 $
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13 janv. à 0 h 22
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Moving Batherson for anything less than a 2024 1st and a B+ prospect is an absolute failure. He’s a 65-75pt winger making less than 5 mil

Tarasenko and Brannstrom get more
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13 janv. à 0 h 42
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Quoting: csick
Moving Batherson for anything less than a 2024 1st and a B+ prospect is an absolute failure. He’s a 65-75pt winger making less than 5 mil

Tarasenko and Brannstrom get more

wennberg and brogen might be worth not getting that first.
13 janv. à 0 h 42
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I agree based on value about what you say about Batherson, but as I said I feel the Sens need to prioritize immediate players rather than picks because it will encourage the fans and try to put an end on the losing culture. Brannstrom is someone who I've debated the value of before, but honestly the Sens should be happy to get anything out of him because he is a bust. I don't think the Tarasenko trade will look like last year's, I think it will look a lot more like the Taylor Hall to Boston move or Kane to New York. Most contenders don't need score first wingers at the deadline, and I do not see his market as frothy, especially on his number.
13 janv. à 0 h 51
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I still feel like someone beats that deal for Tarasenko.
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13 janv. à 1 h 44
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wennberg and brogen might be worth not getting that first.


Wennberg is a rental. Borgen only has 1 more year left. That’s not good value at all. Not getting a 1st or one of seattles good young prospects is very bad
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13 janv. à 1 h 52
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Quoting: capsfan2121
wennberg and brogen might be worth not getting that first.


I like Borgen, but as a 3rd, maybe 2nd pair guy, not a top pair guy. Wennberg is fine, but a completely unremarkable player. He's good if you can sign him as a free agent for a reasonable contract, but he's absolutely not a guy you work a significant trade around, outside of some large salary deal where money goes back the other way.
13 janv. à 10 h 19
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Quoting: csick
Wennberg is a rental. Borgen only has 1 more year left. That’s not good value at all. Not getting a 1st or one of seattles good young prospects is very bad


I think if Seattle traded those players right now, they could easily get a return equal to a first. Young, right shot defenceman with a year left on their deals at a reasonable dollar value are very valuble.
 
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