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Ice Cold like Van is right now

Créé par: westleysnipez
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 12 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Guentzel, Jake
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
    Retain 1.5M on Guentzel
    BUF
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
    2.
    VAN
      Guentzel @ 50%
      PIT
      1. Åman, Nils
      2. Podkolzin, Vasily
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
      4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
      3.
      VAN
      1. Monahan, Sean (585 000 $ retained)
      MTL
      1. Klimovich, Danila
      2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
      Rachats de contrats
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2024
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de VAN
      2025
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      2026
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2283 500 000 $83 496 667 $850 000 $15 000 $3 333 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 2
      Guentzel, Jake
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
      1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      825 000 $825 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
      AD, C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      775 000 $775 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
      775 000 $775 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2

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      12 janv. à 21 h 19
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      I wouldn't be mad if KH accepted this Monahan trade
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      12 janv. à 21 h 54
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      Sabres unlikely to retain for another team’s trade
      You’ll have to find someone else
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      12 janv. à 21 h 59
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      Quoting: AntiAnalytics
      Sabres unlikely to retain for another team’s trade
      You’ll have to find someone else


      Is the reason cash-related? They've 3 open retention slots and nearly 18M in available cap space, it would make sense for them to weaponize that, unless they're having money problems. They'd only be paying about $275k-350k.

      It could honestly be to any team with the cap space though.
      12 janv. à 22 h 20
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      Quoting: westleysnipez
      Is the reason cash-related? They've 3 open retention slots and nearly 18M in available cap space, it would make sense for them to weaponize that, unless they're having money problems. They'd only be paying about $275k-350k.

      It could honestly be to any team with the cap space though.


      In general, your logic makes sense
      But for us, a 4th doesn’t hold much value considering how stocked- overstocked actually- our prospect pool is
      We also need to make a few trades to fill in some holes,
      & it would make more sense to use our retention slots in deals like that as opposed for mid round picks

      It’s commonly believed that the Sabres owner wouldn’t go for a trade like u suggest
      He’s worth over $10billion
      We we do lose $$ on a yearly basis when we don’t make the playoffs

      It just doesn’t make sense for our situation when u know the particulars
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      12 janv. à 22 h 58
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      pens pass.
      13 janv. à 4 h 56
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      pens pass.


      No they don't, this is exactly what they asked for.
      13 janv. à 14 h 28
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      Quoting: westleysnipez
      No they don't, this is exactly what they asked for.


      No it isn't, that deal can be beat.

      You want Guentzel, you've got to offer better.
      13 janv. à 16 h 20
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      Quoting: pens1991
      No it isn't, that deal can be beat.

      You want Guentzel, you've got to offer better.


      Yes, it is. 1st round pick, a good prospect, NHL-ready roster player. It's all there. Whether or not someone offers more remains to be seen.
      13 janv. à 16 h 36
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      Quoting: westleysnipez
      Yes, it is. 1st round pick, a good prospect, NHL-ready roster player. It's all there. Whether or not someone offers more remains to be seen.


      The first is going to be a late first given the probability that Vancouver will go decently far which means the rest of the offer needs to be boosted a bit.

      Nils Aman is a bottom 6 forward at best.

      The Canucks have better prospects than Podkozlin (multiple)

      Won't matter anyways because they won't trade Guentzel.
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      13 janv. à 17 h 0
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      Quoting: pens1991
      The first is going to be a late first given the probability that Vancouver will go decently far which means the rest of the offer needs to be boosted a bit.

      Nils Aman is a bottom 6 forward at best.

      The Canucks have better prospects than Podkozlin (multiple)

      Won't matter anyways because they won't trade Guentzel.


      Just because the Canucks have better prospects than Podkolzin doesn't mean that they have to give up those better prospects. Podkolzin immediately becomes one of, if not the best prospect in the Penguins system.

      Aman is currently a bottom-six forward and he has top-6 upside. He has 5 points in 19 games with minimal minutes and is still only 23. His P/60 5v5 is higher than Knies, Lindholm, Kane, Letang, Smith, McCann, etc. minimum 150 mins. played. Higher xGF% 5v5 than Gaudreau, Caufield, Teravainen, Suzuki, Jack Hughes, etc. (min. 150 min played) Signed through 2025-26 at league minimum. That's with him seeing 10:53 ATOI. Tough to give up, but worth it for a player like Guentzel.
       
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